Current Empy 95 Price

[Vortex]

Yeah, a 15% Cure potency, 15% cure cast time body that rdm and sch can equip sucks. So does an Adaman Hauberk-1 with extra DA that mnk/thf/nin/etc can equip. And don't get me started on a damage taken-8% body piece that also converts 1.4% of damage taken to TP, that one is terrible.

Of course, if pchan dosn't want/need it, it sucks, where have you been?

Complaining about people asking 5 mil for a plate is a bit bizar, considering it's a player's choice to put them up for that amount and it's a new item subject to the overpricing rage that happens every update.

Most people are aware over pricing is a very common thing every update, but 5 mil a plate? even gill buyers aren't that retarded and they usually have no sense of value to what things cost. and anyone idiot who puts it up for that much deservers to die in a damn fire, if there is a word for beyond taking advantage.

[MarkovChain]

Yeah, a 15% Cure potency, 15% cure cast time body that rdm and sch can equip sucks.

White mage, what is it ? It's faster to "get" and better with better gear potency /speed, and better spells. Enjoy your cure 4s.

[Mahoro]

White mage, what is it ? It's faster to "get" and better with better gear potency /speed, and better spells. Enjoy your cure 4s.

Interesting. Your answer to "I want X gear" is "Get someone on Y job in your party." By that logic, nobody should be interested in ANY gear that gives less of a benefit than a COR, BRD, WHM, etc. in their party can give.

Your logic is not of this Earth.

[Atomic_Skull]

Yeah, a 15% Cure potency, 15% cure cast time body that rdm and sch can equip sucks. So does an Adaman Hauberk-1 with extra DA that mnk/thf/nin/etc can equip. And don't get me started on a damage taken-8% body piece that also converts 1.4% of damage taken to TP, that one is terrible.

And that DMG49 delay 186 dagger with ODD is total garbage.

[Vortex]

This probably has to wait since it's new everyone will price them as high as they possibly can, seen people bazzar them for 1 mil EACH on cerb (this person is obviously retarded), this massive greed dies down in time after new content is released, but yea, need other ways of obtaining these or a 95 empy won't ever see the light of day.

[Suirieko]

You know, when SE said that they would be balancing the Mythic and Relic completion rate to the Empyrean, I thought that they would adjust the drop rate of currencies and Alexandrites, and I had a feeling that I Would be wrong, and I was really, REALLY hoping that I was right.

IF this is SE's answer to "balance it out" it's a wrong answer. The drop rate of heavy plates are horrendous, The rate of getting ONE STAGE done is almost entirely the same rate as getting a whole friggin weapon empyrean and mythic stage done. It's ridiculous and completely unreasonable.

Also, there hasn't even been a record of someone selling Heavy Plates in Phoenix as of yet. That's pretty damn bad.

And people complained about mythics.

Good news, 90 Emps will probably always be better than the other options for most jobs, excluding maybe drk(reilc), sam(relic), and drg(mythic, and probably relic too since rhongo sucks major c**k).

And that is why that this is not an answer to "Balance things out" period. It makes no sense to make an (and very much slight) upgrade stage to be incredibly daunting just to 'balance out' with the mythic. It's ridiculous.

I WAS REALLY hoping that the Heavy Metal would be like Kindred Crests/Seals drop rate, but only in abyssea, given the number of how many machina mobs (Especially in Scars) are around. But this is completely unreasonable.

[scaevola]

You know, when SE said that they would be balancing the Mythic and Relic completion rate to the Empyrean, I thought that they would adjust the drop rate of currencies and Alexandrites, and I had a feeling that I Would be wrong, and I was really, REALLY hoping that I was right.

This would have actually been totally 100% reasonable, but the damage has already been done. Making 95 empyreans really painful to get solves nothing because the big jump in power comes at 85. You'd have to make the Abyssea stages much more difficult if you wanted to establish parity, but I'm not even sure moving the 80 and 85 stages from 50 items to 100 would really fix the problem. But then, I'm not sure "make it way easier for everybody to be super powerful relative to content in the twilight hours of a PvE game" is a problem that really needs fixing anyway.

[Atomic_Skull]

I'm pretty sure the intention of the lvl 95 and 99 upgrades are simply bragging rights. Even at 90 an emp is still the best weapon of it's class in the game for most weapons. Hell even 85 emps beat lvl 95 relics in most cases. The whole point is you have an easily upgradable version of the weapon (90) and then you have two additional stages that really make little difference in the weapon's effectiveness that are there just as a status symbol.

They're trying to cater to both the casual and hardcore crowd at the same time with this.

[Symbiote]

Just a thought here. We've seen Silver Mirrors dropping from older VWs (city paths) and early Jeuno tiers. Who is to say that the heavy plates won't be just that if VW continues into the 96-99 range for CoP, ToAU areas?

I may be wrong, but it is food for thought. If I am right, I expect a huge black and white cookie over-nighted to my house.