Current Empy 95 Price

[Gokku]

Trying to get a running total of what heavy iron plates are going for on all severs in hope that SE will see how ridiculous it is.

Ive seen 3 Bazaars on carbuncle with them 5 mil , 5mil , 2mil

Carbuncle Total : 7,500,000,000gil - 3,000,000,000 gil

100k a plate = 150 mil for a 95 *still a little over the top but mythic says hi*
50k = 75 mil * about the price of a relic atm so not to bad would make it rare enough*
20k = 30 mil * serious investment not to insane for even an casual player to get*
10k or lower * 95's..... 95's everywhere would be a dream but never going to happen*

Requires between 4-8 accounts with MAX gil. Estimated RL value of at least $56,583 USD , to $141,457.5 USD.

Unless Plates Drop from all content *ala kindred crests style* to the point were plates are costing 100k max to about 50k decent , and a low of 10-20k each. it is completely unreasonable to expect and player to ever complete a level 95 Empy's weapon.

2nd comparison, Lets say you have a Linkshell who does 3 T3 VW EVERY day with 18 people never lose a kill and get a 50% drop rate on plates. 165 kills of T3 Void watch lets avg 30 mins a kill since t3 can be nasty 82.5 HOURS of voidwatch to complete.

If you spot any in your servers bazaars please list the price and what server.
i think i mathed this right... i prob didnt.

[Leonlionheart]

And people complained about mythics.

Good news, 90 Emps will probably always be better than the other options for most jobs, excluding maybe drk(reilc), sam(relic), and drg(mythic, and probably relic too since rhongo sucks major c**k).

[Gokku]

[ If people Actually post i will use this space to keep a running High / low / Avg log of the price]
*names Removed for privacy*
Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 100,000
Fenrir.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 300,000
Cerberus.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 500,000
Shiva.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 199,000
Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,500,000
Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 950,000
Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,000,000
Shiva.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 200,000
Asura.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 200,000
Valefor.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 1,000,000
Asura.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 399,999
Ragnarok.[Source: Guildwork Client] PM 500,000

Current GW listing as of 11:12 10/1/2011
Avg Price across all listed servers: 737416 gil *per plate*
Avg Price to complete based on all servers: 1,106,124,000 *1.1 Billion Gil*

Avg Per Sever : * from AH , and FF info bazaar listings per sever* if someone can tell me what the kanji is for metal plates i can check the Japanese side of Bazzar's


Bahamut * no Listings*
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Shiva *2 listings*
Min: 199,000
Avg:199,500
Max:200,000

Phoenix
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Carbuncle * 1 listing found*
Min: 500,000
Avg:500,000
Max:500,000

Fenrir * 1 listing*
Min: 300,000
Avg:300,000
Max:300,000

Sylph
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Valefor
Min: 1,000,000
Avg:1,000,000
Max:1,000,000

Leviathan
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Odin
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Quetzalcoatl
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Siren
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Ragnarok * listings 5 atm*
Min: 100,000
Avg: 810,000
Max:1,500,000

Cerberus * 1 listing*
Min: 500,000
Avg:500,000
Max:500,000

Bismarck
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Lakshmi
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Asura * 2 listings*
Min: 200,000
Avg:299,999
Max:399,999


Current Cheapest Server : Shiva
Current Price to Complete on Shiva : 299,250,000

[Yugl]

500k each (4x).

[Byrth]

I've seen a few for 100k, 200k, and a lot for 500k. I'm going to start buying at 100k, because I don't think the price will ever drop below that.

The only thing I can think of is that the next update will include more sources (additional WoE chambers, more voidwatch NMs, etc.) but as it stands this quest is almost as daunting as Alexandrite was when mythics were released.

[Monchat]

I'd buy anything below 200k myself. You say in the Op that 75 M is the price of relics? it requires about 175, 100coins which is pretty much 175M. Farming your own plates is not practical, because voidwatch sucks, the drop rate (50%?) sucks, and you are limited with voidstones.

[Greatguardian]

Honestly I don't find this the least bit unexpected considering the vast majority of the feedback on these forums has been either Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are or non-Relic holders complaining about how easy Empyreans are.

That said, 165 fights isn't as terrible as it sounds if we're talking an old-school Relic/Mythic class weapon, and you can always supplement this with bought plates (I'd never buy over 200k personally =/ I'd optimistically hope for the market to stabilize at 100). It definitely removed the casual player from the equation though, holy crap. Hopefully there's an ODD rate increase on these 95s, and there's something new in store for 99 versions. OTD would be pretty boss.

Edit: You're not really limited with voidstones. You can always buy Voiddust with cruor/ISP/CP, and you can even trade voiddust so you could buy voidstones from other people if you really wanted to.

[Vortex]

This probably has to wait since it's new everyone will price them as high as they possibly can, seen people bazzar them for 1 mil EACH on cerb (this person is obviously retarded), this massive greed dies down in time after new content is released, but yea, need other ways of obtaining these or a 95 empy won't ever see the light of day.

[Elexia]

And people complained about mythics.

Mythic weapons is a whole different annoying beast. Guess Emps had to cost something other than time eventually.

[Suirieko]

You know, when SE said that they would be balancing the Mythic and Relic completion rate to the Empyrean, I thought that they would adjust the drop rate of currencies and Alexandrites, and I had a feeling that I Would be wrong, and I was really, REALLY hoping that I was right.

IF this is SE's answer to "balance it out" it's a wrong answer. The drop rate of heavy plates are horrendous, The rate of getting ONE STAGE done is almost entirely the same rate as getting a whole friggin weapon empyrean and mythic stage done. It's ridiculous and completely unreasonable.

Also, there hasn't even been a record of someone selling Heavy Plates in Phoenix as of yet. That's pretty damn bad.

And people complained about mythics.

Good news, 90 Emps will probably always be better than the other options for most jobs, excluding maybe drk(reilc), sam(relic), and drg(mythic, and probably relic too since rhongo sucks major c**k).

And that is why that this is not an answer to "Balance things out" period. It makes no sense to make an (and very much slight) upgrade stage to be incredibly daunting just to 'balance out' with the mythic. It's ridiculous.

I WAS REALLY hoping that the Heavy Metal would be like Kindred Crests/Seals drop rate, but only in abyssea, given the number of how many machina mobs (Especially in Scars) are around. But this is completely unreasonable.