Dancer Suggestions: Round II

[Ordoric]

yes i think they should add a low lvl ability, and they should steal an idea from solas and misery LOCK IT OUT WHEN ITS SET AS SUB HA HAHHA.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

As these are suggestions to add utility to main job DNC, I'm going to have to say that would defeat the purpose.

Easy enough to gimp it for subjob if they really wanted too.

Personally it wouldn't be that great, so I'm all for it being DNC exclusive, that said DNC really needs unique abilities, this just basically steals from WHM's Devotion.

[Asymptotic]

To be honest, As awesome as having crazy double darkness skillchains would be, I don't think that would do anything to bring dancer out as a more desireable job - especially because dagger weaponskills tend to not do so hot against high level mobs. A fix to our heals and better frontline support would be a good solution to dancer's current problem.

The ability to force a crit actually does wonders for dagger WS against high level targets. DNC has the additional strength of being able to sent attack through the roof for a single WS.

The A ma guise / Glissade suggestions obviously do offer some increased damage potential on a timer, but the main purpose is to provide some additional utility to the flourishes we already have.

That said, I agree with you hence the nature of most of these suggestions leaning toward support.

[Asymptotic]

I stick by my guns...low level ability...

Additionally when I said "target party member" that was meant to mean that you can't self-target it, so the purpose you were suggesting wouldn't work anyhow.

[Asymptotic]

Easy enough to gimp it for subjob if they really wanted too.

Personally it wouldn't be that great, so I'm all for it being DNC exclusive, that said DNC really needs unique abilities, this just basically steals from WHM's Devotion.

I guess they shouldn't give DNC the foreshadowed regain ability, because that would steal from SCH's Adloquium.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

I guess they shouldn't give DNC the foreshadowed regain ability, because that would steal from SCH's Adloquium.

I stated they need "unique abilities" I never said they can't have abilities that other jobs have. If I said that it'd remove 99% of their abilities.

[Soranika]

Nothing wrong with blurring the lines between jobs for some specific abilities. For example, SAM's Konzen-ittai is copy of DNC's Wild Flourish. Would it be looked down upon of DNC borrowed something like SAM's Shikikoyo.

Actually probably would. Lot's of people SAM would cry foul but... how many SAMs are willing to give 100% of their TP to another... or DNC getting it without merits... Yet it does seem like a fit for DNC to have too... I'll shut up about that.

[Asymptotic]

I don't think an exact borrowing of Shikokyo (by exact borrowing I mean trades DNC TP to give another player TP) is really that great for DNC's concept.

Still, a way to shoot TP at party members would be nice and I envisioned it as a flourish, consuming FMs. Basically I designed it to be "sort of like reverse flourish, but not self-targeted."

[Juri_Licious]

Excellent ideas and thanks for mentioning my thread!
Hopefully these ideas won't get shot down this time by the devs.

Dancer currently, doesn't get invited to any parties anywhere in the game. Maybe voidwatch for weaknesses but I haven't seen it yet. I pretty much play solo on DNC 98% of the time due to the fact that THF or NIN get into Abyssea parties, THF gets invited everywhere else pretty much.

A DNC role these days is pretty much a solo one, unless you whine and whine and you find someone who is being nice that lets you in the party. (Which is rare) More attack options does sound wonderful.

[Soranika]

I picked up DNC post 75+ level cap.... it makes me sad and regret never leveling the job before then when groups loved them.