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    Player Zarchery's Avatar
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    Did you ever notice that every update ever, since the inception of this game, is filled with "SE MADE A TERRIBLE UPDATE!" Every single one of them.

    I'm not saying that everyone hates the game, just that people who are dissatisfied will complain whereas satisfied people will just stay quiet and enjoy what is provided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarchery View Post
    Did you ever notice that every update ever, since the inception of this game, is filled with "SE MADE A TERRIBLE UPDATE!" Every single one of them.

    I'm not saying that everyone hates the game, just that people who are dissatisfied will complain whereas satisfied people will just stay quiet and enjoy what is provided.
    Always, because that is human nature. Just like there will always be someone who will try to claim that every update is the best update ever no matter what was in it. Human nature.

    But I have noticed this time around that it really isn't a loud roar of a few people screaming about how terrible things are, it is more of a soft murmur of a lot of people expressing thier disappointment. I can point to the lack of storyline as the biggest disappointment to this update, but I am also incredibly disappointed in how they are handling Empyrean upgrades and pretty much all of the Trial of the Magians weapons.

    Before this update, Trial of the Magians was "put in work and you will get something good out of it". This update it is "buy a bunch of low-drop rate items." Empyrean Weapons in particular, 1,500 Heavy Metal Plates is absurd- even if you did Tier III Voidwatch every single day and by some miracle got one Plate a day, it would still take you over 4 years to finish that trial. Which is sad because Empyrean Weapons were the first major weapons system in the history of this game where they got the "Effort to Reward" ratio correct, at least before this patch. Also 40 geodes for one extra stat and 5 damage, while the upgrades stats are disappointing, the fact that they nearly tripled the geodes needed to get those disappointing stats is borderline insulting. How many geodes are we going to need for the 99 upgrades? If the number goes up like this update, we will need about 107.

    No, there isn't a lot of rage from this update. Rage is good for them, rage means passion, passion means that people care, and people who care will keep playing. Quiet disappointment on the other hand, that is the first step to apathy, and no one is going to keep paying for something that they don't care about.
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    Player Washburn's Avatar
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    I was really hoping to see the new merits on this update. I suspect another mini-update will probably come in november/december. But, who knows. Either way, the update we just got definetly wont hold me over til the 99 update.
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    Player Malacite's Avatar
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    I've had it with this game now.

    Unless 99 has some spectacular new awesomeness to it, it's just not worth it anymore. I did kind of enjoy VW, but the drop system is still total bullshit and I am beyond disgusted at the 95 relics/mythics/empyreans. All that effort for such little gain? I thought the new devs had learned finally that that was precisely what so many of us hated about the game for the last 8~9 years.

    It's not about the effort - I love a good challenge. I felt incredibly satisfied and vindicated when I finally got my Masamune 85. But the 95 trials are nothing but SE slapping their giant dick in our faces. Couple this with the blatant disregard of the community's concerns with certain new abilities (Scarlet Dilerium anyone?) and the utter refusal to move PS2 users to PS3 to enable new expansion packs...

    Yeah run on sentence there somewhat, sorry. But it just feels like I've exhausted this game at last. All there really is to do at this point is grind for gear. WotG had such a crappy ending I felt, and after waiting 3 years for it really took the wind out the sails. Abyssea was a welcome breath of new life into what was then a dying game, but its charm has worn off now and has even created new problems.

    Take into account also SE's refusal to fix other problem areas of XI that they have in XIV - namely skilling up and scrolls - and I just can't help but ask "why bother anymore?". I'm still curious to see lv 99 and the "Last Stand" or whatever it is they're cooking up for post voidwatch, but does anyone else really feel like XI has finally run its course?

    Really, really looking forward to patch 1.19 and 1.20 for XIV. I just wish I could say the same for XI, because I still love the game at its core, but it doesn't look like SE can really deliver anymore.

    Seriously, just make a PS3 port already and drop the damn PS2 so we can have more expansions. We haven't even explored half of Vana'diel - a quarter at best, according to the NPCs and game lore.
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    Player Monchat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacite View Post
    Really, really looking forward to patch 1.19 and 1.20 for XIV. I just wish I could say the same for XI, because I still love the game at its core, but it doesn't look like SE can really deliver anymore.
    Just saying: people have been waiting for a miraculous patch in FFXIV since day one. Every 2 week there would be a miracle patch that would solve everything. Patch 1.19 will not fix anything, like any other.

    It took them 4 months from release to realize everything in their game is bad, when peopel had been saying it since 1st month of beta. 1 year after the game still sucks. I loged in last moth for 15 mn to realize the things i hate still havent changed lol ( lag through vendor, lag in city, lag everywhere, terrible UI). This game wont be playable before another year.
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    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monchat View Post
    Just saying: people have been waiting for a miraculous patch in FFXIV since day one. Every 2 week there would be a miracle patch that would solve everything. Patch 1.19 will not fix anything, like any other.

    It took them 4 months from release to realize everything in their game is bad, when peopel had been saying it since 1st month of beta. 1 year after the game still sucks. I loged in last moth for 15 mn to realize the things i hate still havent changed lol ( lag through vendor, lag in city, lag everywhere, terrible UI). This game wont be playable before another year.
    FFXIV seemed like it needed 2 or more years or more of development. But they rushed it out for whatever reason and probably going to have to take a loss on it. They are just getting around to adding chocobos and airships. Not listening to all the problems beta players brought up wasn't that good. They aren't charging a monthly fee in its current state, I doubt anyone would pay for it if they did.
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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    Really, really looking forward to patch 1.19 and 1.20 for XIV. I just wish I could say the same for XI, because I still love the game at its core, but it doesn't look like SE can really deliver anymore.
    FFXIV is cooked, if you can't see that you're delusional. The stuff they have in the works is not goingto bring players back to the game and it's going to be a really hard sell to try get a mass number of new players to buy into an old game (which it will be by the time it's fixed).

    FFXI has some major problems atm but it still has more lifespan and potential than FFXIV. All they really need to do is spend more money on the game, release more expansions and try not to let Tanaka grind the game into the ground.
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    Player Coldbrand's Avatar
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    I'd probably consider this the most uninspiring update the game has ever seen, especially considering this was supposed to be a major, not minor one.
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    Player Zumi's Avatar
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    Only can hope the updates get better after the 99 cap. Not all this huge grind stuff they added in this patch.
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    If they keep making FFXI too good, noone will switch to FFXIV and they won't be able to turn off the FFXI servers.
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