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  1. #311
    Player Kimble's Avatar
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    What fluxes were you doing?
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  2. #312
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    After playing around with woe more I'd say the system is fine as is but it will suck when people stop doing it. Flux 7 for coins, don't do fluxes 9-11 for coins the drop rate for coins is terrible for those fluxes.
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  3. #313
    Player MishaRamuh's Avatar
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    Mischka
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    MNK Lv 95
    Throwing in my experience with it:
    I've gotten quite a bit of coins, but they're all the wrong ones. I've gotten 20 decay, 10 ruin, 8 glory, i don't remember the rest. This is only from doing woe off and on. That's fine I think. The problem is I need advancement, and I've only gotten 1 advancement.

    I can't do anything to fix this, thus frustrating gameplay has been be created.
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  4. #314
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    disregard my post my coins seem to be about evenly dropping for me.
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    Last edited by svengalis; 10-03-2011 at 02:25 PM.

  5. #315
    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    Fistandantilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    Advancement does seem to be the least dropped coin... Also another way to gaurentee you get coins from 7 is don't go in with 35 other people. Too many people means less chance you will get coins.
    Advancement is the coin I have the most of. Also I have received the majority of my coins from 7 which is packed 24 hours a day on Bahamut. So I don't think the # of people is effecting drops in personal chests imo.
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  6. #316
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    Zagen
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    I actually decided to keep track of each run I've done this time around. I did 4 run in 11 the other day and got 2 coins total. I've been spamming 7 since then and have gotten these:

    1) 2 coins 1 pouch
    2) 1 coin
    3) no coins
    4) 2 pouches
    5) 3 coins
    6) 3 coins
    7) no coins
    8) no coins
    9) 3 coins
    10) 1 coin
    11) no coins
    12) 3 coins
    13) 2 coins
    14) 1 coin 1 pouch
    15) no coin

    I don't know why I didn't note how many coins in each pouch but discounting those I've gotten 19 coins in 15 runs or 1.2 coins per run. That's a lot lower average than before if we guess the pouches at 3 each bringing the total to 31 coins or 2.06 coins a run.

    While this isn't a large enough sample size to be conclusive it feels like i'm getting less coins than I used to get the old way.

    Large or small groups hasn't seemed to affect my coin rates much though those pouches were all on runs that took over 10 minutes to clear maybe that's a factor I don't know for sure just a guess at this point. As some of the no or 1 coin runs were with a smaller group.

    EXP ranged from 6.1 to 9k.
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  7. #317
    Player Olor's Avatar
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    I did 2 days of this event and I am already 10% towards a couple of weapons. I don't see any problems. The loot system is great, please let it be. My only concern is about whether or not people will be able to do these events once the initial hype dies down.

    It might be worthwhile to look at scaling fluxes by the number of participants, or if that would be too complicated, to make some fluxes for smaller participant sizes... like say fluxes 1-3 would have a max of 6 participants 4-8 would have a max of 10, etc. That way, when the event dies down in popularity people can still farm some of the lower ranked fluxes
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    Last edited by Olor; 10-04-2011 at 07:14 AM.
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  8. #318
    Player Rambus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    Random loot you do NOT want does not make for fun content. This is one of the reasons many people dont do Voidwatch. Spend all your time and energy and get the opposite of what it was you was aiming at.

    Just give us Voidwatch Points and Walk of Echo points. Let us trade these in for the items we desire. Stop being so stupid and retarded about all this. Its been said by many people to just instate point systems in place of these stupid random drops.
    Making it like assult with points like that seems like a better idea. I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Olor View Post
    I did 2 days of this event and I am already 10% towards a couple of weapons. I don't see any problems. The loot system is great, please let it be. My only concern is about whether or not people will be able to do these events once the initial hype dies down.

    It might be worthwhile to look at scaling fluxes by the number of participants, or if that would be too complicated, to make some fluxes for smaller participant sizes... like say fluxes 1-3 would have a max of 6 participants 4-8 would have a max of 10, etc. That way, when the event dies down in popularity people can still farm some of the lower ranked fluxes
    that is nice, people that know what to do can farm most real emp weapons faster though.

    2 days for 10% just shows how bad it is, lol
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    Last edited by Rambus; 10-05-2011 at 12:30 AM.

  9. #319
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    Yeah pretty bad to make 3 million gil in 2 days and get 10% towards some weapons I would be happy to have but don't really care about... oh and that wasn't two full days, it was two evenings...

    And yeah I guess empys are faster if you play all day and have slaves that are willing to repeatedly farm bosses for you, but I work and I am in a casual shell and I don't dual box, so yeah - love making progress towards weapons without inconveniencing my friends or having to shout in PJ (and take advantage of people)

    It took me the same time to get 10% as it took someone in my shell to get 3 chloris buds (which he needed OTHER PEOPLE to help him get). Yeah. WoE is fine. Don't need to be able to finish the weapon in a week, that isn't the point. The point is you don't have to organize other people to get your coins. You can just show up and get a shot at them. And you don't have to camp multiple nms. Or organize anything.
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    Last edited by Olor; 10-05-2011 at 02:10 AM.
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    1. Congratulations, you got lucky on drops.

    2. How is giving people drops they want taking advantage of them...?

    3. Bar tahrongi path (in which case the WoE version doesn't compare to Empyrean minus Maschu and only because Ukko's beats every other WS, and I'd still rate Maschu lower than Conquerer at 95, and probably Brovura too - outside anyway) 10% in 2 days is awfully slow.
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    Last edited by Neisan_Quetz; 10-05-2011 at 02:46 AM.

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