Phantom Roll XI Adjustment 9-19-11

[Greatguardian]

Has anyone figured out what this is? By XI adjustment, I'm referring to this in the update notes:

o The effect for rolling 11 with the corsairs' Phantom Rolls has been altered.

I've tested a few things and thus far the following are what I have compiled:

- We do not get a third Roll effect even when under 2 simultaneous XI effects
- The Recast time of Phantom Roll is still (Base - 30 seconds) when an XI is active
- We are still immune to Bust effects while an XI roll is active
- There is no noticeable difference in the actual bonuses provided by rolls when hitting an XI
Tested with Tactician's Roll and Chaos Roll, both producing expected pre-update results upon rolling an XI.


Is there anything else anyone can think of that may have been altered? Anything that needs to be tested?

Things I have not yet tested:
- Range
- Duration

I'll update this as I go through the list

[Greatguardian]

.... Never mind. It's an animation and a sound effect. Serves me right for playing with no sound.

[Kaida]

Can't say i expected anythign else than disappointment

[Greatguardian]

Well, considering the XI buff is so powerful as is, I'm not really disappointed. Honestly, I was more worried they were going to nerf it.

[Mirabelle]

Well we've been asking for a new animation, so that's nice. Previously the party only knew if we busted. Now they know when we've hit the jackpot.

[noodles355]

Well we've been asking for a new animation, so that's nice.

We have..?

[Agetos]

We have..?

Indeed we have..! ('_')b

[Camate]

Howdy!

It’s been quite some time since we announced that we would be revamping corsair’s Phantom Roll effects, but I have some additional information about the planned changes.

※Currently these features are in-development and testing and are subject to change.
　

• Phantom Roll Effect Changes
  • Healer’s Roll
    Increased amount of MP recovered → Increases potency of cures received
    

    Roll Value	Effect Value
    1	+5%
    2	+6%
    3	+15%
    4	+7%
    5	+8%
    6	+9%
    7	+2%
    8	+10%
    9	+11%
    10	+12%
    11	+20%
    Bust	-5%
    Bonus	+5%

  • Gallant’s Roll
    Damage reflection → Damage reduction
    

    Roll Value	Effect Value
    1	-6
    2	-8
    3	-24
    4	-9
    5	-11
    6	-12
    7	-3
    8	-15
    9	-17
    10	-18
    11	-30
    Bust	+5
    Bonus	-5

• Phantom Roll Effect Value Adjustments
  • Warlock’s Roll (Enhanced magic accuracy)
    

    Roll Value	Old Effect Value	New Effect Value
    1	+2	+2
    2	+3	+3
    3	+4	+4
    4	+10	+12
    5	+4	+5
    6	+5	+6
    7	+6	+7
    8	+1	+1
    9	+7	+8
    10	+7	+9
    11	+12	+15
    Bust	-4	-5
    Bonus	+4	+5

  • Beast Roll (Enhanced pet attacks)
    

    Roll Value	Old Effect Value	New Effect Value
    1	+12	+16
    2	+15	+20
    3	+18	+24
    4	+48	+64
    5	+21	+28
    6	+24	+32
    7	+30	+40
    8	+6	+8
    9	+33	+44
    10	+36	+48
    11	+60	+80
    Bust	-20	-25
    Bonus	+20	+25

  • Choral Roll (Decreased spell interruption rate)
    

    Roll Value	Old Effect Value	New Effect Value
    1	-11	-13
    2	-43	-55
    3	-14	-17
    4	-16	-20
    5	-19	-25
    6	-5	-8
    7	-22	-30
    8	-27	-35
    9	-30	-40
    10	-32	-45
    11	-54	-65
    Bust	+20	+25
    Bonus	-20	-25

  • Drachen Roll (Enhanced pet magic attack and magic accuracy)
    

    Roll Value	Old Effect Value	New Effect Value
    1	+4	+4
    2	+5	+5
    3	+14	+18
    4	+5	+7
    5	+6	+9
    6	+7	+10
    7	+2	+2
    8	+9	+11
    9	+10	+13
    10	+11	+15
    11	+18	+22
    Bust	-6	-8
    Bonus	+6	+8

  • Dancer’s Roll (Regen)
    

    Roll Value	Old Effect Value	New Effect Value
    1	+3	+3
    2	+4	+4
    3	+11	+12
    4	+4	+5
    5	+5	+6
    6	+6	+7
    7	+1	+1
    8	+7	+8
    9	+8	+9
    10	+8	+10
    11	+14	+16
    Bust	-3	-4
    Bonus	+3	+4

• ※We are making adjustments to make the amounts larger for high numbers and lucky numbers.
  ※We are also planning on increasing the bonus associated with having a Roll's main job in the party.

As long as there are no major development/testing problems, we are planning to introduce these changes on the test server middle or late January.

As usual, please let us know your feedback!

[Mirabelle]

Thanks for the update Carnate. I think this is the first time I've ever seen SE give us the values for PR. ALways had to figure them out ourselves.

One question about the new Gallant's roll. Are the values a flat amount of -DT (like phalanx) or a percentage (like -DT gear)?

Otherwise my biggest comment is: why so much focus on rolls no one ever uses? It seems Evokers was the roll most needing a boost with BRD's and RDM's getting significant refresh boosts recently. Admittedly DNC's roll was pretty weak but even with the modest boost, its not likely to get used.

In any event I can at least see Gallants and Healer's roll being used on a two tank party type setup. Combined with Scherzo and earthen armor that could really help tanks stay alive.

[cidbahamut]

Healer’s Roll
Increased amount of MP recovered → Increases potency of cures received

Can we get some clarification on the wording here? It sounds like this is something you'd have to apply to the people who are bleeding all over the floor, rather than something you can just apply to the White Mage in the back lines.

With that and the cure potency cap, I'm concerned that Healer's Roll may become utterly redundant and impractical. At least with the MP recovery effect it had some niche use.