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    Player Tetsujin's Avatar
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    breakdown of the update

    RDM gets Temper (double attack) and mini-Chainspell
    BLM gets Comet and mini-Font
    SCH's two hour gets a 2 minute boost and ultimate spells
    SAM gets a [SaveTP/TPBonus] combo once per 5 minutes
    BST gets new pets and mini-Familiar
    SMN seems to get erase-ga through carby
    COR save tp roll and a cool 11 bonus
    DNC gets triple attack
    etc etc....

    ...and PUP gets cool down? Fantastic.
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    Player Tetsujin's Avatar
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    also, GoV might have potentially ruined the mandragora in my tree for guard skillups, but I don't know that yet.
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    Player FrankReynolds's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    DNC gets triple attack
    That triple attack move is absolutely useless. You do more damage by not using it. However... Camate said they might add some gear later that makes it a little better in a future update maybe someday....
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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Maybe I am seeing things, but puppet seemed tougher, especially the ranger puppet. He went toe to toe with a sandsweeper, never could do that before. Just seemed to take much less dmg. But I could be seeing things.
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    Player Tetsujin's Avatar
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    I'll have to try it out. I do remember a comment being made on revising puppets in general. Also, sorry to make a whine/bitch/moan thread. Not doing much to help the condition of this forum :/
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    Player Anza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    RDM gets Temper (double attack) and mini-Chainspell
    BLM gets Comet and mini-Font
    SCH's two hour gets a 2 minute boost and ultimate spells
    SAM gets a [SaveTP/TPBonus] combo once per 5 minutes
    BST gets new pets and mini-Familiar
    SMN seems to get erase-ga through carby
    COR save tp roll and a cool 11 bonus
    DNC gets triple attack
    etc etc....

    ...and PUP gets cool down? Fantastic.
    Stop whining. PUP also gets Thunder V for FREE. And PUP and MNK get a bigger buff by additional H2H skill levels than most jobs do, simply due to the nature of how H2H damage is calculated. And don't forget that PUP got 4 new attachments in the July mini-update when most jobs got nothing at all.

    BLM and RDM have to get their new spells as KCNM drops that are going to be super expensive to buy on the AH.

    COR gets a lame update - the "cool 11 bonus" is simply a new animation/sound effect, Conserve TP roll is absolute garbage, and the new pet roll is EXTREMELY situational.

    DNC, as FrankReynolds said, gets a new JA that is virtually useless.

    Some jobs got less - MNK and WAR got no new abilities, DRKs don't seem very excited about their new JA, etc.
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    Last edited by Anza; 09-21-2011 at 05:22 AM.

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    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anza View Post
    Conserve TP roll is absolute garbage, .
    its save TP meaning you dont use the TP that it saves and in most situations it cuts a hit of xhit builds ....

    total shit right?
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    Player Anza's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jar View Post
    its save TP meaning you dont use the TP that it saves and in most situations it cuts a hit of xhit builds ....
    total shit right?
    Jury's still out, but nobody so far seems to think it beats out other DD rolls like Chaos, Tactician's, Fighter's, Rogues, Blitzer's (for 1hand/h2h users not hitting delay reduction cap). Samurai Roll cut a hit from most xhit builds too, but that doesn't usually rank as a top 2 DD roll in many situations today either. S-E did change the roll from Conserve TP (stated or mistranslated before) to the better Save TP, maybe due to CORs responding that the new rolls sucked. I personally haven't tried it out yet, my COR still at 90 but I'll get to it soon.

    At any rate, I have 5 jobs that I'm keeping at max level, and honestly I think my PUP was #1 or #2 on the scale of which ones got the best updates.

    PUP: Thunder V is nice, and will make your BLM friends cry that they can't get it for free. Pet Subtle Blow trait isn't massive, but better than not having it and is always on. Situational JA isn't game changing, and probably won't even be used, but whatever.

    NIN: Great new parry move as insurance for shadows down. Crappy new Store TP ninjutsu that takes forever to case (Ichi...)

    COR: A new sparkly XI animation and two new rolls that are situational at best.

    DNC: One new JA that is terrible (Ternary Flourish), total waste of finishing maneuvers.

    MNK: Nothing.
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    Last edited by Anza; 09-22-2011 at 04:05 PM.

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    Player Kristal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anza View Post
    Stop whining. PUP also gets Thunder V for FREE. And PUP and MNK get a bigger buff by additional H2H skill levels than most jobs do, simply due to the nature of how H2H damage is calculated. And don't forget that PUP got 4 new attachments in the July mini-update when most jobs got nothing at all.

    BLM and RDM have to get their new spells as KCNM drops that are going to be super expensive to buy on the AH.

    COR gets a lame update - the "cool 11 bonus" is simply a new animation/sound effect, Conserve TP roll is absolute garbage, and the new pet roll is EXTREMELY situational.

    DNC, as FrankReynolds said, gets a new JA that is virtually useless.

    Some jobs got less - MNK and WAR got no new abilities, DRKs don't seem very excited about their new JA, etc.
    DRKs are just emo whining, they do that with every addition or change.
    None of the new abilities are exiting, but Cooldown was utterly pointless to add, unless SE is adding enemies in the future that cause overload (which is particularly devious). The devs reasoning of putting it on 95 was: "we don't want to detract from a lvl 75 mythic weapon".

    I mean, seriously... PUPs at 95 simply don't overload unless they WANT to overload.. had they put it on level 15 it would have made a ton of sense, even leave at 10 minutes. But rather then adjust a minor feature on an ultra-rare weapon, they made the entire ability pointless.

    But hey, we got it, so now we can use it. Once a month. Per server. (Not counting for curiosity/research purposes.)
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    "Puppetmaster was our last best hope for peace. It failed.
    Now it's our last best hope.. for victory!"

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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    We should probably complain more about the piss poor content as a whole, very weak.
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