Gun Ninjas!?

[Saefinn]

It actually sorta is a stretch of the imagination, considering you lose 6-7 attacks worth of TP gain and damage for 1 throw, that makes it very, very unlikely it could ever be fixed. So say what you want, but until 1 throw does as much damage and gains as much TP as 6-7 attacks, it will never be worth using. What is so hard to understand about that to you people?

Yes, that's current stats. That's not hard to understand at all. Read back at what I wrote, you'll see I addressed that issue by suggesting that with Sange improvements throwing weapons and any stats surrounding them could be improved. So current TP and damage is irrelevant, because it'd mean they'd have to be improved if SE wanted to have Ninjas using throwing weapons, like Bulrogg would no doubt like to see.

My stance on whether NIN SHOULD be able to use throwing weapons to their advantage is neither here nor there because whilst I suspect it'd be nice to not waste Ninja's skill in it and to have an extra part to the job some may enjoy there's also of course an issue of what takes priority and what'll make people happy, but also how SE deals with 'balance' and usually their approach to balance is to nerf. But if SE were a little more generous and I'm sure if done right, throwing weapons could be improve to a point where they become useful without hurting other aspects of the job (except maybe in merit choice, but at least for that it's a choice for a player's style rather than a nerf).

I'm sure I could just take a position of superiority and assume everybody who thinks differently is an idiot and can't play their job, but that'd just be nasty and would contribute nothing. I'm not going to merit Sange, I'm probably not even going to buy throwing weapons, I've already got a Chakram, so if I ever need to use a ranged weapon to pull, I can. However, I'd rather not shit on people's ideas or assume they're idiots because they play differently and would like to see aspects of the jobs they're interested in to be explored. And of course, you're more than welcome to play the job as you wish and I hope nobody would try to force you away from that, after all, you're here to enjoy the game. Yes, if SE nerfed any aspect of NIN that made people, such as yourself, enjoy NIN less then I would be disappointed, hence my comments about 'balance' above.

It's this frothing at the mouth culture surrounding some of this game's fanatics I find difficult to understand.

[wish12oz]

Yes, that's current stats. That's not hard to understand at all. Read back at what I wrote, you'll see I addressed that issue by suggesting that with Sange improvements throwing weapons and any stats surrounding them could be improved.

It's a pretty astronomical jump from what is there now, compared to what they would need to add to make throwing worth using. Exactly what part of anything SE has ever done with this game leads you believe SE will add a ranged weapon that will do as much damage and gain as much TP as 5+ attacks? I mean, I can see from the rest of your post you're pretty clueless on how game mechanics work, but I just want to understand why you are white knighting throwing so much. It's terrible and basically can't be fixed, I fail to see why you don't understand this.

everybody who thinks differently is an idiot and can't play their job

Math, it's awesome because there's a right answer, and wrong answer.

It's this frothing at the mouth culture surrounding some of this game's fanatics I find difficult to understand.

Apparently you never had to stand around and wait to do something while a bunch of horrible people took forever to get out of the way.