Inconsiderate!

[Unleashhell]

and maybe so would about 30% of the people out there.

But that wasn't the situation. You didn't see anyone drop the money, you just see it on the ground.

Besides, that isn't theft. If I dropped money on the ground, that was my mistake. I should have put the money in a safe spot (wallet, money clip). If you see money on the ground, you did not take it from my possession (it was not on my body or inside any clothing or items that I was holding). You do not have a clear concept of theft and possession, it seems like.

Your example makes no comparison. If you walked up on money on the ground and kept it, that is fine being you don't know who it belongs to. If you actually saw the money fall out of someone pocket and you decided hey 20 bucks more for me and 20 bucks less for him then your a scumbag. Your not walking up on a mob that is unclaimed, your watching someone die just so it goes yellow just so you can take it.

Dont worry Katz not all of us are like this. My LS has a rule that if someone wipes and we take claim we give them all drops. 9 times out of 10 they might only want 1 or 2 items from the pool and give us the rest anyway. So its a win win for both parties involved.

[Unleashhell]

More fighting ; ;

*sigh*

I should have expected this from posting a "morality" thread. Sorry about that guys, I just wanted people's opinions.

Do you camp the same zone every dynamis? Do you camp for currency for a relic or to just sell for gil? Reason I'm asking is there are other zone options and I might be able to help you get a better camp where your overall currency drop might increase.

[SNK]

And it is no one elses either. Thats the point I made.

lol Keep dreaming. If your crap goes unclaimed when you wipe then you bet your *** me or anyone else will take it. If I ever screw up and lose claim like that which these days is next to impossible to do unless you're being *** then I fully expect it to happen to me.

Yellow = Fair Game.

[katz]

I would rather the group kill it. The mob could regen and then it'd just be a back-and-forth when the soloist dies again, or it could depop and potential items could be wasted. And while we're on the topic of selfishness, didn't you hear your own point earlier? "I'd rather a mob depop than another group get it, because it and the items it drops are mine." My hypocrisy senses are tingling.

And I still stand by it was my hard work that got it to 1% and my hard work that got the pops, why shouldnt I try to kill it if I can or depop it if I cant.

[Nianny]

Personally I choose to not take another group's mob when it's yellow and then not help them, but like it's been said here before Yellow = Fair game. If someone decides to take a yellow NM I originally was fighting I can't blame or judge them.

[Aver]

I believe thats a personal attack. Just because I decide what I do with my time on a game that I chose to pay for doesnt mean you can give advice on what I should do nor does it give you the right to say Im wasting other peoples time. If someone else is on a mob, move on, find something else to do. Time is limitless in abyssea Ive stayed in there for over 3 days only came out because I was leaving the country. All you are proving is, its right to steal so long as its free because you dont have time no wonder society is in the mess its in.

Nah, don't take it personally when I say soloers are slow as balls, because they are when compared to people who go in prepared with a group and with the damage to get things done efficiently. That being said, most of the time my LS sees a soloer strugglin' along we'll offer to proc and help them kill because we want them to LEAVE.

But try again!

It's not about honing your mad skillz yo, it's about you cockblocking an entire LS that has done this many many many many times, is tired of the zone and wants to finish their objective as soon as humanly possible so they can move on.

[Elexia]

It's inconsiderate, Urteil and his group on Phoenix does this to everyone from Dynamis to Fellcleaver/Cataclysm'ers. Sadly, we just call these people idiots and move on to a better camp that they're generally too stupid to find. Dynamis has plenty of mobs (though they really didn't need to introduce VT/IT versions in spots >.>) that any camp could be good to camp at.

If you see a car parked in your usual spot, do you push it out of the way with your car or key it because it's in YOUR spot?

If I had the ability to I sure as hell would. They'd find their car at the bottom of a lake somewhere >.>

[detlef]

And I still stand by it was my hard work that got it to 1% and my hard work that got the pops, why shouldnt I try to kill it if I can or depop it if I cant.

Yikes, this is harsh. I totally disagree with this. You know what happens when a NM is allowed to despawn? All the effort put in to farm the triggers is rendered moot and nobody is any better off. The drops that could have been used to better somebody's character disappear into the void. Collectively, the playerbase is forced to play FFXI a little bit longer to make up for that lost trigger.

Look at it this way. If you are familiar with T3 VNMs in Heroes zones, you might know that they drop Colorless Souls which are very desired because they are used for the second stage of Ochain and Daurdabla. The way VNMs are designed, once hate is cleared (through a wipe or what have you), the NM despawns. The effect is two-fold. First, it presents zombieing, so regardless of whether you have your AoA equipped, the fight is over if you wipe. Secondly, it means that nobody else can grab it if the group dies (barring blockaid or the mob going white).

You know, you talk about your hard work. What about the people who were camping against you along the way? How would you feel if you camped against a group at Chione, got outclaimed, and then watched them wipe to Ogopogo? Isn't that a tremendous waste? If you got outclaimed at Gukumatz and the other group popped and wiped to Sobek and then it despawned, isn't that a waste of everybody's time?

My point? A NM allowed to despawn is time lost for EVERYBODY.

[Zatias]

Do you camp the same zone every dynamis? Do you camp for currency for a relic or to just sell for gil? Reason I'm asking is there are other zone options and I might be able to help you get a better camp where your overall currency drop might increase.

I generally do Xarcabard and have a number of camps inside. I have all the relic armor drops there and am only there for currency towards my relic weapon. Since I DO have all the relics, as do my helpers, we don't mind also bringing people to grab relic armors they need, as long as they don't mess us up (such as: Diaga SMNs and their pets, cause potentially dangerous 2hrs to go off, aggro the whole zone, or refuse to read the chat log)

I also have a few camps in Beauc, which is slightly more annoying due to its layout, but I don't deal with cities much.

If I had the ability to I sure as hell would. They'd find their car at the bottom of a lake somewhere >.>

I think I should stay far, far away from your frequented spot.

[Suirieko]

Here's what I consider as very inconsiderate: the lone NMs or BST that runs out of nowhere and pops the NM while you are trying to pop the NM as a group.

IE: You have 6 people at a gigas NM to collect KI for Briareus, and a nin comes out of nowhere and pops one for himself. This, I consider as blatantly rude and inconsiderate.