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    Player Crysten's Avatar
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    The amount of BLUs in this thread that don't even know the basic fundementals of the job are making me sad at the moment. ._.

    Some additional information from the BLUs simply eyeballing their hitrate would be amazing - what were you casting in? What food were you using? Subjobs? Vague anecdotes of "well i can hit it 10/12 times on anything so you guyz must be gimp lol" aren't going to help anyone better understand optimal builds. :/
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    When something is really bad, eyeballing can net you enough information to base an opinion on. Sure you cannot come up with exact mathematical percentages but if you miss a lot more then you connect, it is noticable.

    what about the fact with all the acc you can get in abyessa and you have a horrible hit rate, what is going to happen outside when ACC is even more of a factor?
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    I have to agree with xbobx heavy strike is very noticeable when compared to all the other spells I am casting. I don't need to parse its hit rate when it's the only one I am having a issue landing >.>. Now that I have switched to str-acc not as much but the thing is understanding how much additional acc is necessary to make it viable in a rotation. I wasn't using food against aura statues wasn't necessary one darkness sc and they died. If BT was missing for me as much as HS was I be a sad panda.

    My very first heavy Strike cast whiffed talk about a wtf moment wasting CA+Efflx on it seems waaaaaay waaaaay risky atm.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    The amount of BLUs in this thread that don't even know the basic fundementals of the job are making me sad at the moment. ._.

    Some additional information from the BLUs simply eyeballing their hitrate would be amazing - what were you casting in? What food were you using? Subjobs? Vague anecdotes of "well i can hit it 10/12 times on anything so you guyz must be gimp lol" aren't going to help anyone better understand optimal builds. :/
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/231358

    ask the right questions instead of only complaining and we'll get somewhere. those saying how no one knows anything but them... how about explaining? if you're not here to help things get better, gtfo seriously. "wow this guy is dumb, lemme tell him that!" thanks lemme just go /wrists.
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  5. #75
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    Mavi earring is just golden and retains my point. +2 STR foot armor is especially confounding.
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    fixed the earring for you and for feet i'll buy Areion's Gamashes again, npcd them :P
    or maybe creek m clomps so i can use it for vit mod too. if i could get Setanta's Ledelsens i'd happily use them ^^ denali or morrigan's would be good too if i had them.

    The amount of BLUs in this thread that don't even know the basic fundementals of the job are making me sad at the moment. ._.
    every single spell's dmg mod and acc rate, with proper testing listed = Basic fundamentals? these are the official forums not a site dedicated to math majors or anything of the like. instead of being snobby (how you feel intelligent is beyond me) maybe give advice. even if you want to be a dick, at least do so in a beneficial manner.
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    Last edited by Defiledsickness; 09-24-2011 at 04:52 AM.

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    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    Holy shit how do I respond to this amount of ... yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrobunny View Post
    then the my pure coolness is making me not miss with it then b/c my gear hasint change
    You're an idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    finally people who dont miss 90% :P

    night if you are so intelligent GO TEST! come give us the results after you actually use the spell because other then telling me my posts are wrong you haven't been contributing to finding out anything. just complaining ;P i like the spell yet im still trying to find out about it.

    in WoE conflux#9 fighting amhuluk mobs, heavy strike only missed 2 times out of 12 and i cant remember the dmg cuz i was weakened and trying not to die (because it takes 30seconds for the auto-raise +more with all the smn lag) but i remember one of the casts did 600dmg. i was mostly using Sudden Lunge which was stunning them 5-7 seconds ^^ that spell only missed completely once of maybe 20 casts. these are not EP mobs btw. 8.6k Exp at the end.
    He doesn't have to waste his time, I've already done it a multitude of times and the data is available if you look for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    maybe your numbers on Heavy Strike are wrong? it is still very new. does Loki's effect Typhoon during SA? because atm critdmg+ is the biggest damage factor.
    No, they aren't wrong. You just don't know how to gear properly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/231358

    ask the right questions instead of only complaining and we'll get somewhere. those saying how no one knows anything but them... how about explaining? if you're not here to help things get better, gtfo seriously. "wow this guy is dumb, lemme tell him that!" thanks lemme just go /wrists.
    Case and point: you don't know how to gear properly. Holy shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    fixed the earring for you and for feet i'll buy Areion's Gamashes again, npcd them :P
    or maybe creek m clomps so i can use it for vit mod too. if i could get Setanta's Ledelsens i'd happily use them ^^ denali or morrigan's would be good too if i had them.

    every single spell's dmg mod and acc rate, with proper testing listed = Basic fundamentals? these are the official forums not a site dedicated to math majors or anything of the like. instead of being snobby (how you feel intelligent is beyond me) maybe give advice. even if you want to be a dick, at least do so in a beneficial manner.
    You seem to have trouble grasping these basic fundamentals.
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  8. #78
    Player Defiledsickness's Avatar
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    ok once again; how about a demonstration of these fundamentals? why is my gear bad and what should i focus on? Blu magic skill has tiers that change the base dmg of spells (my skill isnt capped at 95 yet so i just put on magus body and mavi legs for the sake of it, 30skill is always nice). next i take the str mod and the accuracy nerf and proceed to gear every slot with Str or Acc. since i dislike constantly updating gear swaps for 1 spell, i'll re-evaluate my Blu skill when i reach cap.

    the 100% Crit rate is the last factor, isnt it? feel free to step in at any time here. now the only CritDmg+ gear i have is Loki's Body. i know Dex effects crit rate so are you saying i should have more dex? it also effects accuracy so dex wont hurt at least. where in my logic am i missing your point??

    also you will notice in my gear set it says "outside abyssea" inside crit dmg is far more accessible so loki's could beat magus body. i havent tested everything yet, im on the forum because im not on the game; im using the forum to learn more about the spell. so far i've learned nothing :P
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    Player Prothscar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    ok once again; how about a demonstration of these fundamentals? why is my gear bad and what should i focus on? Blu magic skill has tiers that change the base dmg of spells (my skill isnt capped at 95 yet so i just put on magus body and mavi legs for the sake of it, 30skill is always nice). next i take the str mod and the accuracy nerf and proceed to gear every slot with Str or Acc. since i dislike constantly updating gear swaps for 1 spell, i'll re-evaluate my Blu skill when i reach cap.

    the 100% Crit rate is the last factor, isnt it? feel free to step in at any time here. now the only CritDmg+ gear i have is Loki's Body. i know Dex effects crit rate so are you saying i should have more dex? it also effects accuracy so dex wont hurt at least. where in my logic am i missing your point??

    also you will notice in my gear set it says "outside abyssea" inside crit dmg is far more accessible so loki's could beat magus body. i havent tested everything yet, im on the forum because im not on the game; im using the forum to learn more about the spell. so far i've learned nothing :P
    First off, BLU can't wear sentry belt. Magus Jubbah +1 and Mavi tayt +2 will likely always be superior to other items in those slots until we get more skill in either, which we won't. Cuchulain's cape, Denali/Agrona's Leggings, an earring that isn't mavi or loquacious.
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    Player Defiledsickness's Avatar
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    lol whoops. wouldve been great tho :P guess its warwolf then. still good for RR on war :P
    wow cuch cape is almost a 3rd of its old price.

    did i post somewhere im broke? because that influences all my AH bought gear. and im working toward a 5-hit cdc build rather then heavy strike.

    oh ya i saw the agrona's leggings but not sure i want slow :P its already a long recast. loquacious is until i decide to spend money on str ears or get a good drop from something. and i SAID denali! and you proceeded to say 'noob noob blah blah' so c'mon now. but i was in high school during those days so i never got em.
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    Last edited by Defiledsickness; 09-24-2011 at 05:32 AM.

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