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    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    You answered your own question on the original post. You don't have to pull them and they are easy to run away from plus even gimped jobs can solo them. From what I have experience from domain ops and worm parties, the experience and cruor is faster at worm camp once you built up to 610 experience per kill. Seriously try it for yourself. The cruor rains in just like a FC or even faster if your party is good. I do nothing but worm parties now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yandaime View Post
    But why in the name of Altana do they keep making parties for Worms?!?
    No warrior to cleave them on better targets, obviously.
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    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    I'm not sure about cruor though, exp yes, but not cruor.

    Try a bird/bat cruor farm in the coast, you will not be disappointed.
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    Worms are the squishiest easiest to kill mobs in the game, that's why.
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  5. #15
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    Try a bird/bat cruor farm in the coast, you will not be disappointed.
    SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP

    In all seriousness, though, worms are easier to build azure lights on quickly, and are weaker than dominion targets. This is important because even if you can get more XP/hour in a dominion camp, it still caps quickly enough on worms that the XP itself becomes an afterthought.

    It's a MUCH better environment for some mindless cruor farming (which is what gets the 90s to come out) and skilling up (since you can reliably hit and damage a worm by the low 200s, skill-wise), which are what really matter; the only thing Dominion really has to offer is a super-outside shot at a complete PITA body seal.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  6. #16
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    meh idk, my fastest party was in Altep vs Dolls and i ran through 20 merits in roughly 45 minutes, was one of the only parties I've had that had 7 Strong DDs in it at one time tho, so there was hardly any down time. And most Altep parties don't pull 5 mobs, we typically just camp close to the Dolls, its a small walk to the OP but your still in xp range most of the time. The xp note on the worms is notable, I would just find it tedious having to walk to every mob I'd want to swing at, especially if that mob aggros and binds me beforehand lol.

    Dominion Ops have a few really good Advantages:
    *The book doesnt care what Lights you have (PERFECT for dumping merits and coming right back without having to recharge lights all over again
    *The book is largely better for Cruor as you'd keep a steady supply coming from the mobs and a large chunk with each page
    *The book is also perfect for bringing in new jobs since you wont have to wait til *Capped* gold to see exp on a lowbie job when your keywhoring

    Yea... when I actually wanna level, Dom Ops: Altepa is just too good lol.

    Oh, and most people probably avoid Puks because of the Flashga/Super Blink they like to do. Its just annoiying is all (still remember puks from TAoU burning xD)
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  7. #17
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    It's a MUCH better environment for some mindless cruor farming (which is what gets the 90s to come out) and skilling up (since you can reliably hit and damage a worm by the low 200s, skill-wise), which are what really matter; the only thing Dominion really has to offer is a super-outside shot at a complete PITA body seal.
    I guess you do have a point.

    But skillups are fun in my opinion, but that is a matter of personal preference.
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    Player scaevola's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I guess you do have a point.

    But skillups are fun in my opinion, but that is a matter of personal preference.
    Yeah, I actually enjoy it, too. I actually just finished taking MNK to 90 last weekend, though, and on the way up I was in an Uleg party with 250-ish base skill, punching bluffaloes with a 40% accuracy rate (C&D atma, lollers) for not-infrequently 0 damage on a non-crit. The reality is, if I'm going to hit Abyssea for my high-70s/low-80s, there's no question worms are a better choice even if they only give half as much XP/hour, because I'm getting skill-ups there and I'm going to cap XP in a decent Abyssea party in a few hours no matter what camp we pick.

    Skill-ups are the new XP.
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    tandava crackows + chocobo jig + animated flourish = prouesse ring

  9. #19
    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    I'm not sure about cruor though, exp yes, but not cruor.

    Try a bird/bat cruor farm in the coast, you will not be disappointed.
    I've tried that and I was disappointed why? Because we kept resetting the cruor! For me the time spent try to keep cruor at cap is outwayed by the Mon stop chest that rain in from a worm party. You just to make sure your Meyer is opening them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    I've tried that and I was disappointed why? Because we kept resetting the cruor! For me the time spent try to keep cruor at cap is outwayed by the Mon stop chest that rain in from a worm party. You just to make sure your Meyer is opening them all.
    Get in a group that does it right and you won't be disappointed is how Korpg should have worded it.
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