Rebalancing and Redesigning Red mage (Suggestion)

[Daniel_Hatcher]

i dont get the what your trying to point out , but regardless ill direct you to pup who was promised an A- in hth and when it came down to it they were given a B+. if any skills got a raise it would be dagger / sword to B+ and healign /elemental to B/B-. i honestly dont see them making Rdm a better sword user then WAR the Duke of all things pointy.

Erm... WAR is capable with all weapons, this doesn't mean they are masters of all weapons.

WAR are only truly masters with Great Axe and Axe.

[Gokku]

They honestly cant justify giving rdm an A+ / A / A- in sword or dagger skill without raising holy hell from any other respective job.

A+ sword = PLD has been replaced for tanking alot of critical mobs even with shield skill RDM can null a fuck ton of dmg

A- sword = rdms now out DD and out Nuke blue and feed less tp

B+ dagger = dancers would rage and Cor

A- dagger = Thfs would rage

and god forbid

A+ dagger = cor thf dnc would lose there shit

from a realistic balance aspect with en spell and phalanx and fencer they will never give rdm the A level skill it needs to be a mainstay as a melee on the front line.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

They honestly cant justify giving rdm an A+ / A / A- in sword or dagger skill without raising holy hell from any other respective job.

A+ sword = PLD has been replaced for tanking alot of critical mobs even with shield skill RDM can null a fuck ton of dmg

A- sword = rdms now out DD and out Nuke blue and feed less tp

B+ dagger = dancers would rage and Cor

A- dagger = Thfs would rage

and god forbid

A+ dagger = cor thf dnc would lose there shit

from a realistic balance aspect with en spell and phalanx and fencer they will never give rdm the A level skill it needs to be a mainstay as a melee on the front line.

Up blu to A sword skill, the only real bonus from sword skill now is from an accuracy standpoint.

As for B+ Dagger, I don't think I've even seen COR use a Dagger (But still they could up them with RDM), and DNC has enough traits to make them superior, they are already +35 Accuracy on traits which puts them above A+ Thieves on the base Accuracy front.

Personally I'm not for, or against a skill raise. I'd be fine with more WS's like RDM should have had in the beginning, but regardless it's impact on other jobs would be minute.

[Shiyo]

A- sword = rdms now out DD and out Nuke blue and feed less tp

...........lol............

[Gokku]

right so Almace * what a rdm should have dont argue it * + enspells + bliz / thunder 5 + phalanx + enfeebles + grav / bind + composure.

rdm would wipe the floor with blu if they were put on the same tier melee wise.

[Shiyo]

Currently bluemage outheals, outmelee dd's, and outnukes RDM. A- sword skill changes NOTHING.

[Hayward]

Currently bluemage outheals, outmelee dd's, and outnukes RDM. A- sword skill changes NOTHING.

Yeah, yeah...we get it, already. You want to change RDMs AF armor to pink cloth and take away Sword & Dagger skill and replace it with watered-down Staff skill. And for what? To pander to a playerbase that has no imagination or originality.

I see no rational reason for S-E to not make Red Mage as advertised--a fighter-mage, for those who don't remember. Game Balance is a weak dodge since they threw that concept out the window with 2-handed weapons. How is it overpowered for a Red Mage to have quality Weapon Skills in the weapons they are most capaple of using or to be able to augment their weapons with quality enhancement spells that kick in on every swing?

This irrational fear among the developers about jobs like Red Mage outshining the flavor-of-the-month melee jobs needs to be done away with and soon.

[Quetzacoatl]

right so Almace * what a rdm should have dont argue it * + enspells + bliz / thunder 5 + phalanx + enfeebles + grav / bind + composure.

rdm would wipe the floor with blu if they were put on the same tier melee wise.

erm, I hope you're not suggesting that RDM nukes and melees at the same time. Either way, How would RDM outnuke BLU in this instance? I have no intention of believing that RDM nukes would ever keep up with BLU's Physical Magic. It's not like Nukes are insta-cast, and you would have to swap into some major fast cast gear to alleviate the 10-14 seconds it takes to use Blizzard/Thunder 5. BLM has the advantage with Elemental Celerity as well as a certain degree of fast cast gear, -Jas, and higher Skill+/MAB, I don't see what your point is.

If anything, A- Sword Skill with the current gear options for RDM probably still wouldn't outdamage BLU. It may come close at points, but you can't ex

[Zatias]

Let's NOT nuke in elemental staves now~

[Quetzacoatl]

Let's NOT nuke in elemental staves now~

I know, right?