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    Player Tsuneo's Avatar
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    I find that people who think speed leveling a job results in sucking at a job actually suck at the game themselves. The game is the way it is now because people choose it to be that way. The way people level isn't forced upon them, so for SE to change anything about Abyssea doesn't mean anything. People will just find the next fastest way to level like Astral Flow burns in the past.
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    Last edited by Tsuneo; 09-09-2011 at 04:13 AM.

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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Life lessons, by the laws of physics

    Number 1:

    The path of least resistance is always the way water will flow, because it's easiest. People are the same way.
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  3. #33
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    Awesome ^^ didn't think this would cause so much drama. Guys just from reading a few remarks i can tell that a lot of you are kids,this is not an arguement about who is right who is wrong or which way is better/ worse. it is just my opinion and it's a way to learn more about what the game has to offer. I'll retort on some of the shocking remarks i have read lol. first of all there are always going to be exceptions in every rule but hands down the best mages i have come across in the 8yrs i've played this game are those that took the job from 1-75 first before taking the job to abyssea ( i do not care or am i bothered how they got there). Not to take anything from those who did an abyssea burn as i have also met a few good ones but majority of white and Red mages i've partied with in all factions of the game are those who mastered it.
    as for the issue of those pesky new players, please read before you write rubbish, i've introduced 5 of my friends to the game BRAND new players (please check this lol) not returning or pre-mature players have had trouble progressing through the game as is. three of em are now level 90 without and major missions or quest done. levelling is never the issue of course not because people will find a way to burn and yes there are these new valor options to help but getting skills and quest done hmmm. it is ok when you can skill up for 10-20hrs straight when all you have to do is come back from school and play the game what of others that have families and other responsibilities. (children and bills even not just my mobile phone bill) where is the 10-20hrs or free weekends to do it. Oh sorry boss i'm not coming into work i want to skill up my staff in ffxi lmao. people please grow up those who support this thanks, if you don't, thats fine too but i did not write this statement to aggrevate you i mean why would i do that? if you are tired of reading about the same topic ,it ok say you are, only people that can make a difference are happy that there is still a debate about it and throw in great ideas on the metaphoric table so thats all that matters guys chill out, make love and play ffxi lol
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    OMG used the fucking enter/return key ~_~
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    People who don't have time to play MMOs shouldn't play MMOs.
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    Player Gallus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FANCY60 View Post
    Awesome ^^ didn't think this would cause so much drama. Guys just from reading a few remarks i can tell that a lot of you are kids,this is not an arguement about who is right who is wrong or which way is better/ worse. it is just my opinion and it's a way to learn more about what the game has to offer. I'll retort on some of the shocking remarks i have read lol. first of all there are always going to be exceptions in every rule but hands down the best mages i have come across in the 8yrs i've played this game are those that took the job from 1-75 first before taking the job to abyssea ( i do not care or am i bothered how they got there). Not to take anything from those who did an abyssea burn as i have also met a few good ones but majority of white and Red mages i've partied with in all factions of the game are those who mastered it.
    as for the issue of those pesky new players, please read before you write rubbish, i've introduced 5 of my friends to the game BRAND new players (please check this lol) not returning or pre-mature players have had trouble progressing through the game as is. three of em are now level 90 without and major missions or quest done. levelling is never the issue of course not because people will find a way to burn and yes there are these new valor options to help but getting skills and quest done hmmm. it is ok when you can skill up for 10-20hrs straight when all you have to do is come back from school and play the game what of others that have families and other responsibilities. (children and bills even not just my mobile phone bill) where is the 10-20hrs or free weekends to do it. Oh sorry boss i'm not coming into work i want to skill up my staff in ffxi lmao. people please grow up those who support this thanks, if you don't, thats fine too but i did not write this statement to aggrevate you i mean why would i do that? if you are tired of reading about the same topic ,it ok say you are, only people that can make a difference are happy that there is still a debate about it and throw in great ideas on the metaphoric table so thats all that matters guys chill out, make love and play ffxi lol
    hey it's a giant wall of text. with the advent of GoV, the experience outside abyssea is very similar to dominion ops. you can do a standard party and make really good exp/hr doing so, or you can team up with an alliance and get exp rolling really fast. rather than baw about nerfing abyssea, you should try building a GoV party sometime and spread the word about it.
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    Player AldielQuetz's Avatar
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    The problem is, in a party-based game, you go where the party is, amirite? And when beginning a new game, that's intended to be multiplayer, don't you want to play with other people instead of soloing? I think that if we were to put a level cap on abyssea that the number of new players would pretty much bottom out as well. In short, what we are dealing with are PS2 limitations, plain and simple.

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    Nihonjin ga daisuki desu hohoho! m(_ _)m

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    Quote Originally Posted by FANCY60 View Post
    I don'y have an enter key. (Edited because nobody should be forced to look at this post twice.)
    I just ate a huge burrito, and I wanted to punish myself for it, so I actually read that eyeball wrecking post of yours. I have some questions.

    1. I have leveled BLM on 3 characters. How would raising the level cap have made me a better player on my 2nd and 3rd time? This just seems like it would have been annoying.

    2. If a person gets to 90 in 2 days, and then plays the job at 90 in events etc. for 6 months... and another guy takes 6 months getting the job to 90 the old way. At the end of 6 months.... who do you think will be better at the job at that point...really?

    3. If you have all the time to spend leveling jobs the old fashioned way, why don't you have time to skill up? Seems like a wash to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankReynolds View Post
    3. If you have all the time to spend leveling jobs the old fashioned way, why don't you have time to skill up? Seems like a wash to me.
    Because real life card bro.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    Because real life card bro.
    That applies to all that time needed to exp the old way >.> which was his point.
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