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  1. #181
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    This post translates into you suck @ video games. No offense, but it's true and there's no way to really think of it any other way. All of the items on the test server are easily obtainable.

    Spells: go do the BCNM if you can't afford them. Some are quite easy to solo.

    AF2 go solo dynamis or get a PT or a group of friends who want AF2 as well.

    AF3+2 find a good linkshell. You want one with a fair DKP system, there is no need to con a LS into getting you the items. You have points then you lot.

    Leveling is not hard. FoV and GoV make it quite fast and easy to get to 30. At that point you can just leech your way to 90 in abyssea. You don't have to pay anyone anything, just make your own PT. PT leader can always leech (though I always key since i don't really care to leech.) Some healers and DDs then you're set, don't get more then 2-3 leeches in a PT. I've gotten all my SJs from 37 to 50 and BLU/WAR/MNK to 90 through leeching, and BLM/SMN/SAM/BST to 90 through EXP in abyssea.

    Skilling up is fun and easy (to me) I have Staff, H2H, Sword, GK, Great Axe, Axe, Elemental, Summoning, Blue magic, at max. I also have Club, Dagger, Enfeebling, Enhancing, Archery, Marksmanship, Parry, Dark, Polearm, Singing, and Wind around 200. With skillup food and Moogle powers it's extremely easy to get anything up to 200 and at that point it's quite easy to finish in abyssea if you have no other choice. Also I know quite a few people with both max parry and max guarding.

    As for the "crazy weapons" they didn't give us any Relic/Mythic/Empyrean weapons, only the WoE ones. Yes the WSs are nice, but you can live w/o them while you try to get them. I've never done a WoE weapon, however I do have a Hvergelmir and I am working on Amanomurakumo (18/60 stage 4, 10/70 stage 5.) These weapons take time, you can't expect to have them magically pop into your hands. WoE take time too, but you can manage solo/with friends/in a linkshell. If you want an Empyrean then form a group and tell people all upgrade items are yours and they can lot the test. You can also get a group of friends and all help each other upgrade them. Lastly you can get a Linkshell with a DKP system and lot them when you fight those mobs.

    I'm going to shut up now, but before I go I have 1 more thing to say:
    Did you notice the trend in most of these things? (STOP BEING LAZY/GO MAKE FRIENDS/GET A GOOD LINKSHELL)
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  2. #182
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    I'll put it this way, on jobs that can't use Epona's ring, if one of those shitty rings that everyone uses from Abyssea had 5STR and 5DEX on it, that'd be my default second ring for everything.

    Also, spending money on a 9acc ring instead of a Mars ring is about as retarded as it gets. I don't even have acc issues on PLD in Voidwatch, Crab/Vampire aside. (Though Gorget/Belt-Anguinus usually perform better than Rancor :3 )
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparthos View Post
    Apparently SE sees differently.

    Abyssea is over and the future lay in the new Voidwatch, Walk of Echoes and possibly CoP Dynamis. That's why you know... they have 4 Voidwatch patches planned.
    We have already seen the reward and they are extremely disapointing, side grades of situationnal gear at best. So you can keep thinking that they want VW to be the future of the game, but they don't put it in practice by finally surpassing AF3+2 and empyrean weapon. As an exemple they made pretty videos of the next weapons ; did you see them ? Underwhelming. It's a bone to give us until they finally fix jobs and old content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post
    As an exemple they made pretty videos of the next weapons ; did you see them ? Underwhelming. It's a bone to give us until they finally fix jobs and old content.
    Perhaps you missed the knife that will most likely end up being the best off hand dagger for THF and DNC. You should watch that video again Gchan.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    My WAR actually has capped ACC on everything in Voidwatch using rajas ring, without aggressor, acc food, or giving up all that much in gear. With the only exception being the Vampire~ Maybe if you actually did voidwatch or bothered to learn about the game, you'd know more about it and not toss out blanket statements like "No 2 handed DD has capped acc ever."
    No you don't.

    As far as drops go.... Do you use Rancor Collar or are you gimp?
    Typical noob answer. You did not understand anything to voidwatch ; either you tank and racor collar is dumb or you don't tank ans therefore don't hit (inbefore PLD being superior : wrong, you hit= you tank). Auction house, what is it?




    People don't do voidwatch because they are bad players.
    Wrong. People don't do VM because the drop are not worth it, it is that simple, and a few die hard still do them in hope the future will be brighter, but PLEASE, stop spreading nonsense. Rancor collar is pretty dumb neck piece to equip, I'm not sure who can seriously consider using this in voidwatch for one, or outside for two. So what ? You can kill big crap ? And ...? They are all fairly easily 6-manable. Problem is the drop are bad. You come here on your high horse explaining us that people that don't chose to farm rancor collar are necessarily bad players ? You realise that a "good player" makes at least one million in one hour of dynamis farming ?
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    Perhaps you missed the knife that will most likely end up being the best off hand dagger for THF and DNC. You should watch that video again Gchan.
    Yes I missed it lol.
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  7. #187
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    Ganesha's Mala, Ganesha's Mask, Fazhuelo Radiant Mail, Strendu Ring, Strendu Mantle, Langeleik, Mextli Harness say que pasa

    Not to mention, upcoming VW drops surpass nearly every piece of gear for nearly every job in every slot they are offered for.

    Examples:
    Azteca body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Double Attack+2%
    Sphere:Haste+2% Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC

    Azteca head 2
    Head Rare Lv95
    Defense31 DEX+12 AGI+12 Haste+6% Regen Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC

    China body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense70 VIT+17 Physical damage-8% Change 14% physical damage to TP
    Sphereouble Attack+2% Combination:Haste+8%
    WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG

    China head 2
    Head rare Lv95
    Defense40 STR+15 Attack+25 Day:Element WS damage up Combination:Haste+8%
    WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG


    I will say, it will be fun watching AF3 MNKs (Which laughably, you aren't) run around at 95. At least they'll be better geared than a MNK wearing full Usu.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Ganesha's Mala
    sucks. Because your quadruple attack is awesome when it procs on 3rd or 4th it.

    Ganesha's Mask
    Mathed by several people to be inferior than mnk AF3 head for instance.

    , Fazhuelo Radiant Mail, Strendu Ring, Strendu Mantle, Langeleik, Mextli Harness say que pasa
    junk.
    Not to mention, upcoming VW drops surpass every piece of gear for every job in every slot they are offered for.
    junk except cure potency for RDM which is no longer a healer.

    Azteca body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 Double Attack+2%
    Sphere:Haste+2% Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC
    You never wondered why they didn't put better stats than AF3+2 on it ?

    Azteca head 2
    Head Rare Lv95
    Defense31 DEX+12 AGI+12 Haste+6% Regen Combination:Triple Attack+3%
    MNK, THF, BST, RNG, NIN, BLU, COR, PUP, DNC
    seriously ?

    China body 2 eff
    Body Ex Rare Lv95
    Defense70 VIT+17 Physical damage-8% Change 14% physical damage to TP
    Sphereouble Attack+2% Combination:Haste+8%
    WAR, PLD, DRK, BST, SAM, DRG
    seriously ?

    I will say, it will be fun watching AF3 MNKs (Which laughably, you aren't) run around at 95. At least they'll be better geared than a MNK wearing full Usu.
    When are you finally going to do maths to back up your claims ? Typical BG.
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  9. #189
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    I know I'm a little late, but with BG crowd just not being helpful at all, I'll help you with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soranika View Post
    STR +5
    For on handed weapons, that only equals 2 ATK. 3 ATK for two handed weapons. Obviously, there are other rings that out classes that.

    DEX +5
    If you're going for crit damage on a job that doesn't rely on crit or low chance of crit damaging, why bother? ACC is not much of an issue lately if you actually skill up your job. With all the gear swamping and more gear that offers a lot of ACC, it's not as great.
    You are right, there are rings out there that have better than 5 STR and 5 DEX on them. But are there any rings out there that have better than both 5 STR and DEX on the same ring? You do know that Crit rate is effective with additional DEX, which is why people still use Byakko's Haidate even though there are better legs with additional Haste and accuracy on them.
    But neither of those stats are what makes the ring shine.
    Store TP +5
    This is still great for one handed weapons, but for duel wielders with multi attack weapons, most don't notice the effect of store tp if it even procs because it's always gained back in rapid succession.
    Ignoring the "even procs" part, Store TP helps turn an X hit build better. Can turn a 7 hit into a 6 hit and a 6 hit into a 5 hit.
    Subtle Blow +5
    Heed Ring gives STB +7 plus the 3 ACC that the dex would give from rajas. Nevermind the slew of gear in other slots that give STB too, like Toreoro Torque with 9 eva and STB.
    Subtle Blow is very helpful on feeding TP to the mob, which is VERY helpful for people who are tanking them mobs. Even when only 1 person is on the mob, the Subtle Blow effect can be noticeable when it comes to the number of cures needed to survive a fight.

    Rajas ring is as outdated as Tamas ring at this point.
    Only if you have individual stats on Rajas. But since Rajas has STR, DEX, Store TP, and Subtle Blow all in one slot, that is what makes this ring shine into the best ring for actual melees. It encompasses attack, accuracy, crit hit rate, increase TP wield, decreased TP feed, and overall and outright damage delt to anything. Tamas increase the accuracy and, if done, damage delt to a mob from a magical source while not gaining much hate from doing so. MP+ is negotiable because nothing of value really costs less than 50 MP. Except Sleep and Stun.
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    Pchan lol you noob
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