The test server is more fun than the real game.

[Zarchery]

Also, levelling is ridiculously easy. I took 12 jobs to level 30 (for the job emote). Each one took me a grand total of maybe 10 hours. After that, you could look for leeching opportunities, although I don't personally condone this, it's an option.

You can get from 1 to 90 in a week. It used to take several months. There has been compromise on the level grind; they've basically gotten rid of it.

That's the problem with making things easier; you won't please everyone. They'll demand that it become even easier.

[noodles355]

Wait what? The test server is just quests/abilities/items etc to make sure they're not bugged and don't cause a conflict with something else so that they can fix it before implamentaion to negate the need for several emergancy maints, and also to gove the community a chance to test new ideas and give feedback.

Quite why it matters what sort of equipment or means of leveling or anything else you have, I don't know. It doesn't mean a thing if you have every single relic weapon in the game, or use the cheapest thing in the H with full perle/aurore/teal. It's there for getting feedback on new additions and testing for bugs.

[Rosina]

Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

[Rosina]

Oyh btw This was an issue with Aion people played the test server more then the game. XD

[Lynchilles]

Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

Kinda dumb for you to call people who don't enjoy leveling and consider it a grind "kinda dumb"

What gives you enjoyment and pleasure in FFXI is not what gives everyone else enjoyment and pleasure. You are an ignorant twit when you call someone "dumb" for not enjoying the game the way you do.

But from what I have seen from all your posts in the past, I shouldn't expect much more from you other than ignorant misconceptions.

[Tamoa]

Kinda dumb people refer leveling to grinding now a days. Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day. More so with mmorpg where the older it gets more stuff there is, so the longer you play the mmo more stuff you see. Rushing levels is an mmorpg is a bad thing, that makes content (which is fun) obsolete. Where as long as newbies join the game there is still a reason to do the content. I think most ppl here got a bit of a warped concept of playing games. Or a warped concept of reward. pretty much you can get all jobs maxed in 2 mnths w/o buying a single peice of gear and having very poor skill levels. Then another mnth to get all emperyn AF for all those jobs. ok so what the heck is the point in doing 5% of the game? Why even waste money at that point. No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3. Maybe rank 5 in a nation. As they do not see a point in doing much else.

I don't think you read the OP's post or the replies - if you did, you didn't understand them.

People refer to exping in old-style exp parties as grinding. And it was. For some jobs it was a long, painful grind, waiting hours for an invite. These days we have a lot more options on HOW to exp a job.

Games are meant to be played over time, not beaten in a day.

That is more or less exactly what the majority of people posting in this thread is saying, myself included. It's all about setting goals for yourself, accomplish things - whether it's finishing a mission line, level crafts, make an empyrean/relic/mythic weapon, get all jobs to max level, get that one piece of gear (or more) that you really want, and so on.

If everything was handed to us without any effort, I'm certain almost none of us would have been playing this game for more than a couple of months, tops.

No one plays the game as intended anymore all they do is get 90 and af3.

As intended? Wasn't the intention of this game always to level up, and for a very large portion of the player base it was also about doing high level content and getting specific equipment pieces for their job. Or, simply to have fun. And different people find different things fun.

[Kensagaku]

Now, now, let's not start a flamefest against each other. She's gonna put her back up from a single insult, people are going to reply back, and the thread is going to get locked. The usual process, etc etc.

Rosina, in response to your statement - I have to heavily disagree. To me, grinding is absolutely boring. For a new player, it's fun and it's fascinating, learning the ins and outs of new jobs and areas of the game you haven't explored often. I know when I was leveling DRG in ToAU parties, my first job, I was ecstatic for every level I got. My BLU, though it had to be leveled solo, was fun because I got to visit new areas hunting spells and go to some of the BLM pet camps for fast solo EXP. It was worth it because at that time, everything was new to me and wonderful.

But now it's boring. You do something enough, it gets boring. I did the Qufim/Yuhtunga/CN/GC/ToAU grind often enough to absolutely hate it. I never want to level that way again, especially when people cannot listen in a party to work with general tactics. For example, in an old party at 30+ where you had a THF, you'd get a primary Provoker, have them Provoke the mob, while the tank and THF go behind and the tank gets SATA'd for firm hate holding. But then you'd get people who wouldn't provoke, or who wouldn't go behind the mob, or who would move the mob without warning or would go AFK. People were a pain to deal with in slower EXP at times because to them, the game was "throw bodies at it." Many of these people do not change as they level; the grind does nothing for them. All it does is bore me and slow me from reaching levels where I can do relevant, interesting content.

I leveled DRG, BLU, RDM, THF, BST, BRD, and SMN the old-fashioned way. Some of them provided me with unique solo routes because they wouldn't get parties, others were party magnets. But never again do I want to take the slow path that teaches me nothing. Most jobs can have their basics learned fairly quickly by anyone, and the more advanced stuff can only truly be learned/mastered by facing against difficult content rather than squishy EXP mobs. In short, the only advantage grinding has is CP/Standing depending on where you grind. I for one welcome the faster EXP of Abyssea so I can get to actual relevant content.

[Mirage]

Suck less. Skilling up is easy. Or did I imagine skilling up Gaxe from 120 to 300ish as a WAR90 in two evenings?

The more you post, the more you sound like an absolutely terrible player.

To be fair, he was mostly complaining about healing magic skillups, while saying weapon skillups were a lot faster. Healing and enhancing really is terribly slow.

[Rearden]

My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

[Kimara]

My goal is to be the very best, like no one ever was.

To beat the game is my real test, acting childish without pause.

I will travel across the land, leeching far and wide.

I won't cast haste or swap my gear, with my playstyle you will abide.

Rosina, it's you and me. I know it is my destiny.

Rosina, oh you're my best friend. It's this world of Vana d'iel we must defend.

Rosina, a heart so true, only our courage will pull us through.

LOL! <3 this was great.