Anyone try Apoc/RR/SS?

[esoR]

Doesn't it depend on what puppet you use? sure do VS for aftermath , but if you using VE you would to use SP for the 3k + extra dark damage. I like VE over SS, easier to be lazy. I know I know bad pup.

if using VE, with its fast tp gain you could use tactical switch often and do VS> VS for an extra self light, which would arguably be stronger than the puppets ws. often when going all out (not wasting tp overflow) i end up not matching timing with string shredder, so the skillchain effect is rare.

on the subject of VS versus SP, my conclusion is VS will often win by about 10-20% in most situations (this could be related to accuracy).
VS 60% str 5.25-9.25/ SP 30%str 30% vit 5.75-7.75
i support theytak's previous post on the subject, though im more inclined to believe pummel is more consistent where VS has the higher cap. comparing to KKK, with 15% dmg increase, you also have the mythic aftermath, which should bring both vere/KKK in line at 95. (ODD vs Oa 2-3)