Anyone try Apoc/RR/SS?

[Jar]

this troll really lasted this many pages?

[Jar]

SD 15% slow is only a massive contender to DoT when you have other melee speed augments to consider(haste magic songs Slow magic songs**) adding EITHER reduces the over all gain of the Regain atma(SD) while higher values of haste increese the Triple attack atma in that same why it boosts your attack speed.

Meaning that you gain TP about the same with SD Vs. Apoc AT LOW HASTE but if you have ANYTHING OTHER THAN GEAR AUGMENTING ATTACK SPEED SD will give diminishing returns while apoc will Scale with haste. also this is just TP gain rate at all times Apoc will deal more damage because it adds hits while SD takes away hits******


as for tactical P and the other animators Se stated that it speeds up the refresh rate between client and server on automaton decisions This would mean that if the automatons base scan rate is low this would be nice but from years of testing this is NOT the case the automaton scans enough that TacticalP does almost NOTHING.

NO ANIMATOR TESTING HAS PROVEN THAT ANY ANIMATOR IS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER ANIMATOR APART FROM HIDDEN EFFECTS.

and i think that was it?

oh wait and i laughed at the part someone stated American Rights on an INTERNATIONAL ENGLISH FORUM(yeah other places speak English)

[xbobx]

Can I lock the thread somehow?

[Jar]

Can I lock the thread somehow?

not anymore they removed that option.

[Dfoley]

I finally figured out what this reminds me of.

A scientist arguing evolution with a devout religious person.

• Scientist presents indisputable facts/equations/proof.
• Religious zealot argues its not fact, just manipulated assumptions to fit a hypothesis
• Scientist rips his hair out trying to explain something way too complex.
• Religious zealot smiles with a troll-face because they know the scientist is right and they cant win a logical argument so they make fake logic.
• Scientist makes troll face.

Lets be honest, its his way of playing, and no matter how many people give evidence, facts, examples of how its not the best way to DD and in fact there are other, far superior options, he will just say that we are being brain washed by logic and reason and for some reason he is the only one to see the truth.

[Pyrobunny]

VV SS RR my dmg is on par with empy weapons users
and thats not encluding AS from my auto

[Urteil]

Proof? Let me give you the definition of proof: evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth

You profess to state that the kinematic's/Motenten's spreadsheet is sufficient proof to base your opinions off of... and that's ok... for you. It seems that you'd prefer to use someone else's opinion (is the developer of the kinematics spreadsheet) a prior SE developer of the FFXI game? In order for me to use someone elses' formulas and calculations (who knows where the raw data originated from... ) Its so easy to "hmm tweak this and tweak that..." to make it fit an equation in excel it's not even funny--and to have people blindly follow along assuming the information is correct, this is based off of their own lack of knowledge...

I can only assume the blind leading the blind, because, ta da...we're not developers of this game, merely players...that can, at most, use what has been provided to use and try to determine how best it fits our gaming needs.

So please, spare me to...link to said spreadsheet to prove anything... its a waste of time. I prefer to "try things out on my own and experience them first hand" to base my opinion on what works and what does not work...then I share those "experiences" (key word) with others.

People like you will spend an eternity asking why, only to find out out the real question should have been how.

[Darkvalkyr]

The rare times I get to go PUP over DNC or BLU are when I'm fighting NMs or mobs that I don't care about the outcome.

So I go Sea Daughter/VV/RR.

I laugh as me and my Auto just thrash out WSes. Yes I know DPS sucks, yes I know Haste is king, etc. etc. I don't care - because if I was actually thinking what might be efficient/useful in the rare times I go as PUP...I won't be on PUP anyway.

[Darkvalkyr]

Probably really stupid? I'm not trolling because unlike someone I know that my Sea Daughter kills my DPS.

If my LS lets me come PUP for random fun over BLu and DNC which meets more of the LSes needs than PUP, I don't care what the hell I do. So yes, I use Sea Daughter, VV and RR and just laugh while we spam Armor Shatterer and Stringing Pummel for mass Ruby kills.

[hiko]

I know what make SD better than anyother atma: time spent not engaged