95 Limit break

[Alhanelem]

Most people don't like having to unlock the higher levels at all, it's just an annoying barrier to progress for a new player, so it makes sense to keep it simple.

[Runespider]

Most people don't like having to unlock the higher levels at all, it's just an annoying barrier to progress for a new player, so it makes sense to keep it simple.

The whole point of adding them at all was to slow people down a little, now that leveling will take a few hours to cap to 95 I would of thought they might of put more effort into the cap quest, or you know...just not fricking bother with it at all. When it's as stupid as they have since 75+ they are just going through the motions for no purpose, no thought or effort went into them at all.

When I look at all the cap quests to 75 and how much effort went into them it's really sad to see how little effort they put in now, if they think the players are so impatient and want to get 95 so quick just leave out the cap quest.

[Inafking]

No more maat fights. We've had enough already.

[Alhanelem]

Maat fight is easy as pie for any player who has half decent gear, buys consumables, and knows what the hell they're doing.

Interesting fact, this is/was probably less than 1% of the playerbase that was hitting level 70 for the first time.

Which is roughly 100% of the elitists in the game. Interesting fact.

[Aver]

I managed to beat Maat once without knowing what 90% of the stuff in FFXI did, so I'm sure that plenty of people could beat Maat twice without knowing what 90% of the stuff in FFXI does.

Also, I do find the moogle/Maat/Brown Mage conversations funny even if they're not really content.

Exactly, a little levity in a game where the world is constantly ending is a nice thing.

Which is roughly 100% of the elitists in the game. Interesting fact.

lololololol

You have to be an elitist to know how to play your job/buy a vile elixir/vile elixir+1?

Congratulations, you just caused a fit of laughter so great my coworkers are looking at me funny.

[Zagen]

White Mages can occasionally get hate, especially with all the hate reset moves mobs have these days. Knowing how to keep yourself alive with cure bombs so your party doesn't have a weakened White Mage when they get hate off you is a valuable skill.

Abyssea taught me that a WHM with good gear/atma can hold an NM until it gets to rage timer. Later on I learned how WHM is a better tank than PLD inside abyssea. Neither of these 2 things apply to "standard" WHM play style

Cap your Divine Magic. He can still resist however, but the Maat fight for White Mage is brain dead easy between a Light Staff, Earth Staff and AF1 pants.

I suspect that White Mage just being a mule job to people could influence the lack of a win rate against Maat, the fight is incredibly easy with preparation.

Repose landed and it was the first Maat fight, I didn't auto win so I don't see the point other than being able to Repose > Debuff or some breathing room(is that needed on whm fight?), what's the point in mentioning it? I won 1/1 btw with cure method after Repose > Debuffs.

I was being a bit cheeky, considering that the Maat fight is more of a Monk with White Mage sub vs. White Mage fight then a WHM v. WHM fight.

A White Mage with good melee gear can defeat Maat between TP restore items. It isn't common, considering how much easier it is to just Repose him if it is your first fight. If you ever go after Maat for his cap, you'll need to be able to club him to death however.

Ah I see, oddly enough cure method on my taru mule took less time than meleeing it down as an 80 WHM for Maat's Cap. Though didn't have Black Halo at the time so no Hexa > Halo WS option.

Which is roughly 100% of the elitists in the game. Interesting fact.

LOL man my whole LS is filled with elitists then and here I thought I was in a casual LS learned something new.

ITT: Decent gear + Correct Item/Food usage = Elitist.

[Economizer]

Repose landed and it was the first Maat fight, I didn't auto win so I don't see the point

Repose lasts 90 seconds unresisted, and you have to survive for five minutes after your first hostile action on Maat. Basically, you have to Repose him 2-3 times unresisted, you can avoid having to do it a third time with enough distance and time between casts.

It is just an easier way of doing the cure method I suppose, but it definitely makes the fight much easier and cheaper if you don't have to cure spam yourself for five minutes.

[Zagen]

Repose lasts 90 seconds unresisted, and you have to survive for five minutes after your first hostile action on Maat. Basically, you have to Repose him 2-3 times unresisted, you can avoid having to do it a third time with enough distance and time between casts.

It is just an easier way of doing the cure method I suppose, but it definitely makes the fight much easier and cheaper if you don't have to cure spam yourself for five minutes.

Ah, interesting... swore I did it in less than 5 going the cure route but this was a several months ago and I don't think i took a screenshot.

[Cybernetic_Empire]

I agree that the final limit break needs to be a Maat style fight but not against the old man. He's had his time in the spotlight for almost every job. What needs to be done is to have a BC fight against a legendary NPC of the job type you're trying to limit break. As a matter of fact, if you can't find one for every job then introduce new ones via new storylines for each job's limit break. Furthermore, make the quest storyline meaningful to the job. Craft a great story around it and put effort into the cutscenes so that when players finish their jaws are on the floor and their hearts are racing. Lastly, make the fights HARD AS HELL! Players should get a reward for sticking with their jobs to the very end and they should earn the right to unlock their greatest potential. Merits and KS/KC/HKC reek of laziness and have created poor players all around.

[Ravenmore]

I agree that the final limit break needs to be a Maat style fight but not against the old man. He's had his time in the spotlight for almost every job. What needs to be done is to have a BC fight against a legendary NPC of the job type you're trying to limit break. As a matter of fact, if you can't find one for every job then introduce new ones via new storylines for each job's limit break. Furthermore, make the quest storyline meaningful to the job. Craft a great story around it and put effort into the cutscenes so that when players finish their jaws are on the floor and their hearts are racing. Lastly, make the fights HARD AS HELL! Players should get a reward for sticking with their jobs to the very end and they should earn the right to unlock their greatest potential. Merits and KS/KC/HKC reek of laziness and have created poor players all around.

Wouldn't do crap again you simply fail to see how many people don't really care for jobs they are forced to level to do endgame content. I seen so many great players on jobs in the past that were always stuck on some job they hated and did the least they could get away with. Its not even something new it was every where long before abyssea. Brds, rdms meriting that were just there as merit whore jobs cause they used the instant invite these job brought to get merit for their fav jobs. Leveling whm, brd, rdm, blm to get into a good endgame shell to get gear for the jobs they really enjoyed.

If you were willing to play a job no one else wanted to or were tired of coming only as whm to every single event you would gladly take some moron that filled a role that a bot could with out the risk of using a cure bot(while it been next to 0 point remains). If you were honest and look back at the good old days of 75 cap I willing to put good money on that 90% of the gimp of old are the same type you see now, only level a job to use at endgame for the goal of gearing another job. If that your goal then investing as little as you can in the "whore" job for you main is simple logic.

Few players suck at every single job that they don't have one job they know like the back of their hand and could trash any solo BCNM. In fact I lump any one that complains about pugs into the same group as the gimps. You can fix it your self by avoiding pugs and only doing things with people you trust and know personally from past interactions and know they are not brain dead.