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    Player FANCY60's Avatar
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    Scavange im having trouble with the use

    is it me or has anyone else been on the same boat. ive never been successful in getting any thing with this JA in abyssea. as the problems with ammo increases would it not help if this ja be boosted to enable us aquire materials in abby or am i just being greedy
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    I sure wish I could dig up some fire sand or a maple log every 5 minutes in abyssea.
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    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Scavange does not work in Abyessa, you will never get anything. This JA does need to be adjusted or get a Scavange 2 to have chance to pull up real arrows not those crude arrows (what were they thinking)
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    Yeah it would be nice if Scavenge actually had a use. It would be cool if you could pull out partial stacks of decent ammo or *shock* RARE unsynthed ammo every now and again.
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    Player Ezekieal's Avatar
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    Agreed, scavange has been a lolJA for quite a long time now, something needs to be done.
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    Player Mirabelle's Avatar
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    I'm not surprised scavenge doesn't work in Aby since apparently SE forgot about RNG when designing Aby in the first place. No red or yellow procs. No atma that really boosts our damage to melee levels. And no scavenge.
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    I really like that idea, adding ammo that is only available through scavange. Actually the more I think about it, that's a really good idea.
    • Add ammo that can only be obtained through scavange.
    • Make the ammo new and different form what's obtainable on the AH.
    • Make different types of ammo; Arrows/Bolts/Bullets.
    • Make the ammo of varying quality - Make some types worse than whats available already. Make some better.
    • Make the ammo EX so it can't be sold, and thus can't be abused to make gil.
    • Give scavange the chance to dig up Full Quivers/Pouches.
    • Remove the materials like Firesand from Scavange.
    • Make the success rate of the ability worthwhile, would require testing for the correct balance.
    • Keep Old Quivers/Rusty Bolt Cases as booby prizes, similar to Rusty Bucket/Subligar/etc in Fishing, but make them a low % chance.
    • Make the new ammunition a much higher % chance than Old Quivers/etc to find.
    • Make the stronger types of ammunition more rare.
    • Example: 5% Chance to dig up an ammo more powerful than that available on the AH. 20% chance to dig up ammo on par with the AH. 50% Chance ammo slightly worse than AH. 25% chance to dig up Rusty/Crude ammo.

    These changes would:
    Allow Rangers (And Corsairs with Ranger leveled) the oppertunity to have more ammunition without the trouble of AH supply and difficult crafts/cost.
    Allow them access to specialist ammunition, such as ammo with specific stats or additional affects, that wouldn't otherwise be available.
    Make scavange a useful ability that directly helps the job.

    These changes would not:
    Allow players to abuse the ability to make gil.
    Negate the need to purchase ammo on the auction house.

    The success rate of the ability would need to be balanced so that Rangers are still required to buy or craft ammunition, but will be able to use a mix of both bought ammo and scavanged ammo.

    This would relieve some of the ammunition availablity and cost concerns RNG and COR have, without crashing the ammunition market. At the same time it will provide utility to an otherwise forgotten and useless ability.

    It should be designed as a way to supplement your ammo needs, whilst occasionally giving you a booby prize and occasionally giving you awesome ammo that surpases that which can be bought.

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    sutff

    Thoughts?
    pretty much. I was thinking there could be a relatively high chance to find ammo with really strong add.effects and such but even it out by only providing like half a stack. I would just hope they would avoid the chocobo digging system where there's a loot pool you scavenge from. Bonus points if they then retooled the scavenge merits so you could find full stacks or even more powerful ammo.
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    Player Ezekieal's Avatar
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    Good ideas, its a shame aeolus arrow is r/e so you cant have 3 and use with jishnu's tho, would need to make unlimited shot last 3 shots so you can reuse the 3 aeolus arrows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezekieal View Post
    Good ideas, its a shame aeolus arrow is r/e so you cant have 3 and use with jishnu's tho, would need to make unlimited shot last 3 shots so you can reuse the 3 aeolus arrows.
    or barrage!
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