Iron Giant gripe

[scaevola]

MORE LIKE PLACEBO HUNTER AMIRITE

(srsly though I think SAM/MNK could be a viable tank in this brave new world of multi-hit regular attacks because I don't *think* a multihit is more likely to strip Third Eye but buuuuuuuuuh)

[Ziyyigo-Tipyigo]

Probably don't want an Ochain to be "too easy" to get.

[Tagrineth]

Because it's hilarious watching an Iron Giant that you've proc'd blue on.

[noodles355]

Red and Blue are easy to proc on Ironclads. Grellow not so much, I'll give you that. But go fight something that's easier to grellow for your AF +1/+2 drops.

[Arcon]

Red and Blue are easy to proc on Ironclads. Grellow not so much, I'll give you that. But go fight something that's easier to grellow for your AF +1/+2 drops.

Or team up with people like me, who need to do 30~40 Iron Giants anyway. Don't even need grellow, I completed my SCH set and a friend's NIN set without procs so far.

[Monchat]

I find Hrosshvalur 10 times harder to proc than iron giants. Seriously, the "before" or "after" melee trick thatwork for IR, doesn't work for the pugil NM. THat guy is retarded. literally had to try 10 time RLB once.

[Olor]

I find Hrosshvalur 10 times harder to proc than iron giants. Seriously, the "before" or "after" melee trick thatwork for IR, doesn't work for the pugil NM. THat guy is retarded. literally had to try 10 time RLB once.

I hate Hrosshvalur. That is all.

[Dragoy]

I do agree they, and everything similar are silly (Karkadann for example might be the same?) and certainly would like them to be changed to 'normal'.

It's really the only thing I have against them, and I certainly don't feel it makes them more challenging and/or fun, just annoying. ^^;

[Atomic_Skull]

I know that Iron Giant attacks are considered WSs or JA or something.

My question is "Why?"

Why are their melee attacks considered whatever they are?

Because an iron giant's "melee" attacks are actually 3 different AOEs (lateral swing, vertical swing and stomp) that do damage, have one of three different effects (stun, amnesia or knockback), and hit multiple targets at once. They are not melee attacks at all, they are special abilities.

Shinryu's "melee" attacks are exactly the same (AOE + stun + damage) and also count as an ability rather than a melee attack for the same reason.

[Runespider]

Iron giants are not hard to proc at all, you just have to know when to WS or how to deal with the mob in order to proc a spell.

I think they are quite cool mobs and they are laughably easy to kill in Aby, but then so is everything.