[Suggestion] Give procs to all classes!

[Malamasala]

The second procs are generalized, classes will be thrown to the side in favor of the best.

This would have been an argument if not the best jobs had the most procs today. It is like as soon as every job can proc, you'll only go with WAR, WHM, BLM etc... which is no difference to today.

[Sparthos]

This would have been an argument if not the best jobs had the most procs today. It is like as soon as every job can proc, you'll only go with WAR, WHM, BLM etc... which is no difference to today.

Your argument fails outside Abyssea.

WAR WHM BLM do not have all the procs there and you need procs if you want any shot at loot. The thread is called "Give all procs to classes!" and Voidwatch did that.

[Rearden]

But Voidwatch is so harrrrrrd

I want it like Abyssea (((((

lol, welcome to CoP FFXI nubs

[Kimara]

But Voidwatch is so harrrrrrd

I want it like Abyssea (((((

lol, welcome to CoP FFXI nubs

lol this ^^. I love Voidwatch it's been nothing but fun since we started doing it. Voidwatch being hard is one of the things that make it great!

[Juri_Licious]

I'm not even talking about Voidwatch.

[MarkovChain]

But Voidwatch is so harrrrrrd

I want it like Abyssea (((((

lol, welcome to CoP FFXI nubs

Voidwatch is easy and the drops suck (included the new ones that were dat mined). It's also fail because all high tier mobs don't use normal mechanis vs defense/attack/ magic etc. I'm not sure why I'd want to farm a neck that increases my damage by 1%, when I take 10% more damage first, and secondly when there is no place where damage output matters, inluding VW, mind you, and when the only thing that matters in VW is damage taken. Apparently I should feel proud of owning a piece of gear that makes me 1% stronger in outdated content. Seriously can we do a dynamis/salvage style event ? We punch, we proc, mobs drop stuff, no specific jobs needed, fun.

Btw, good luck getting 15 bodies with 3/3 tier IV access to farm the next paths (or 15 bodie with no access willing to help). It's going to be einherjar II soon.

[MarkovChain]

Your argument fails outside Abyssea.

WAR WHM BLM do not have all the procs there and you need procs if you want any shot at loot. The thread is called "Give all procs to classes!" and Voidwatch did that.

No. The weaknesses are random so if you are on the wrong job you just wasted 30 min + w/e it took you to gather ("wyvern abilities, markmanship ws"). VW is the opposite of "give all procs to all jobs", it's either try until it procs something you have or bring all jobs so you are sure...

[Malamasala]

My personal favorite is trying my 50 pacts to proc "blood pact". So far I think I've proced 2 times in 15 when it was avatar procs. Just too many to go through.

[Alhanelem]

lol this ^^. I love Voidwatch it's been nothing but fun since we started doing it. Voidwatch being hard is one of the things that make it great!

Well there are enhancements designed to ease it after you've experienced it some, but it doesn't go as far as abyssea to make everything a walk in the park. Even with all that stuff, it's still tough.

I just think with how much more difficult it is, it should be as or more rewarding than abyssea and it's not. The current available gear

I don't know if people have been trying the new ones on the test server; but the rewards need to be better for it to be compelling, so I hope the new fights have better stuff.

[Shiyo]

SE admitted they failed at the proc system in abyssea by designing dynamis and VW procs doable by any job.