[Suggestion] Give procs to all classes!

[Sparthos]

Abyssea did nothing to solve that. Now it's just "wait for proc, then zerg into ground."

From some of the battles ive witnessed, procs can cause wipes. See: brewed Carabosse fail.

And yes, Abyssea in its current state has become a zergfest due to the overkill on buffs but it doesn't mean SE didn't create procs to slow down the DD throw that was all the rage before Abyssea.

It's the same reason I imagine Dynamis and future content will also have procs.

[Gokku]

From some of the battles ive witnessed, procs can cause wipes. See: brewed Carabosse fail.

Failing to a level 80 abyssea mob when your 10 levels above it WITH A BREW isnt fail its a shitty player i mean christ 9999hp for 3mins and insane damage cara should be dead before it has a chance to 2 hour and even if it does 2 hour it should still be dead in 1min or less.

[Alhanelem]

From some of the battles ive witnessed, procs can cause wipes. See: brewed Carabosse fail.

And yes, Abyssea in its current state has become a zergfest due to the overkill on buffs but it doesn't mean SE didn't create procs to slow down the DD throw that was all the rage before Abyssea.

It's the same reason I imagine Dynamis and future content will also have procs.

um... Dynamis already has procs.

You can always level those jobs - with abyssea - it is very fast to get to lvl 90.

Just because jobs can be easily leveled, does not mean people want to play those jobs and find them fun.

Some people seem to forget this is a game we're playing, and we want it to be enjoyable.

[Rearden]

So much wrong with that statement lol.

[Panthera]

Suggestion: get rid of procing altogether.

[Luvbunny]

Well what SE could do is the change the BLM proc spells using tier 2-4 elemental magic and tier 1-2 ga spells, and also make Scholar Helix applicable as a proc, this way you will see BLM, SCH and RDM along with Nin, War, Mnk, Thf, Whm as part of the aby party set up. Heck in that sense, Smn/Blm could also proc albeit missing a few ga spells and tier 3. Also if you pay attention, you could go where you avoid near lightsday/darksday if you don't want to bring whm to proc light. Then again you would miss out Cure 5-6. Now if SE add Cure 5 to Sch and Rdm, then those jobs would get some love back.

The current best set up of jobs work for now because they give you the most bang for your bucks. Of course the downside to this means that half of the other jobs are not seen as useful - for low group farming - but usually fine when you go with 8 people set up. You can always level those jobs - with abyssea - it is very fast to get to lvl 90.

[Saefinn]

The current best set up of jobs work for now because they give you the most bang for your bucks. Of course the downside to this means that half of the other jobs are not seen as useful - for low group farming - but usually fine when you go with 8 people set up. You can always level those jobs - with abyssea - it is very fast to get to lvl 90.

This is something I refuse to do. Maybe I'm just stubborn :P But then I deal with it, I think people are here to enjoy the game therefore are here to level jobs they enjoy playing. There's plenty of ways to enjoy the jobs you like, but it can be at the cost of not proccing. The best you can hope for is to be good at your favourite job and hope to get a reputation for it...90% of the time, I'm a SCH even I can't cure as well as a good WHM or cover as many procs as a Black Mage. Most people I group with have the attitude that they'd rather invite people who can play their job well rather than somebody who can hit the right procs.

[Siiri]

Most people I group with have the attitude that they'd rather invite people who can play their job well rather than somebody who can hit the right procs.

This is usually the answer if you go with friends/link shell/ people who know you. The only people who insist on the perfect "5 person" setup is those shouting in Jueno. If you go with friends there is room for a lot of variety by either taking 6 people or just plain missing 1 or 2 procs. Abyssea is so easy who cares really. I organize all the statics in my linkshell and I often have people coming "off jobs" like drk for example and all we lose is raiden thrust on red procs compared to war. (Staff as well, but I am usually white mage with capped staff skill and I throw on VV atma)

From the day pickups started there has always been the "most perfect setup" that the shouters only wanted. Who can forget the 4 sam, rdm bard Nyzul boss run shouts, or colibri merit parties where at least 1/2 the jobs were not wanted. If they change the system it will just be a new 5 or 6 jobs shouted for. Sorry that the red mage types cannot believe they are not the no. 1 job in one event now, but those are the breaks. In a game with 20 jobs those shouting for randoms will always have a preference.

[Neonii]

Quantity, quantity, folks not quality, Knowing a job you enjoy and play well that comes in second. Once I understood this I was much better off. So I guess the summary would be level the chore jobs (mine is whm) you are going to need it if you want to play.

[Tamoa]

I must be wired differently from the rest of the playerbase. Because I actually enjoy whm. And when friends and ls members want me to come whm to events, I know it's because they trust me to play the job to the best of my ability. They think I do a good job as whm and knowing that makes me happy and I do my very best to not let them down. I have more than one empyrean weapon and I can proc any red, yellow or blue in abyssea, but I still end up as whm most of the time, and that's fine. I'm secretly a little bit proud that my friends think I'm a good whm. So yeah, guess I'm weird eh? :/

Edit: kinda posted this before I finished lol.
Anyway, what I meant to say is nobody is forcing anyone to level a job they don't like. But for one - how do you know you won't like it until you've tried it? Being lvl 20 whm in a Qufim level sync party isn't quite the same as duoing Isgebind war/sam and whm. As an example. I managed to get blm to lvl 57 well before abyssea was introduced. But I hated it... However, I leeched to around 75 and then joined normal abyssea exp parties. And 90 blm is fun - in Abyssea at least!

Also, those that are so against lvling and playing a job you don't like (or think you don't like) - wouldn't you lvl that job to help out your ls/lowman group to be more efficient?