[Suggestion] Give procs to all classes!

[Alhanelem]

Jobs should be invited because of their strengths, not because of procs. Adding procs to jobs that dont have as many shouldn't be necessary.

[Volkai]

Jobs should be invited because of their strengths, not because of procs. Adding procs to jobs that dont have as many shouldn't be necessary.

This deserves to be reiterated.

[Ophannus]

The way they distributed certain procs was very unbalanced and not well thought out.
Leaving jobs like BLM WAR and WHm being highly sought after for having a majority of the exclusive spells/WS available to them while jobs like RDM SCH DRG which only have a few being left to the side. Maybe they can make it so that weaknesses cycle in real time so when day changes, weakness changes while engaged not being set in stone at the time of the pull. At the same time they can remove the multiple procing aspect so you don't reproc weakness when the day changes. This lets all jobs be useful to an extent and if you can't find a certain proc, just wait till day change for weaknesses to cycle. Or even better make them cycle every 5-6 game hours if it hasnt' been proc'd yet.

[Bobt]

Would it be possible to somehow change the proc system in abyssea so that once a mob is claimed/spawned it somehow analyzes the jobs in that party and limits the procs to those jobs or something? It would still leave all the weaponskills and spells that job could use regardless of if they have it or not but still make it so that if they don't have a blu in the party then those spells won't be able to be the proc. Though i suppose that would just mean people invite the jobs with the fewest procs so that it's easier to get...x.x;

[Sparthos]

Would it be possible to somehow change the proc system in abyssea so that once a mob is claimed/spawned it somehow analyzes the jobs in that party and limits the procs to those jobs or something? It would still leave all the weaponskills and spells that job could use regardless of if they have it or not but still make it so that if they don't have a blu in the party then those spells won't be able to be the proc. Though i suppose that would just mean people invite the jobs with the fewest procs so that it's easier to get...x.x;

So we'd then go from lowmans to flat out solos.

I'll pop on COR then proceed to run the mob around the zone for 20mins after I hit the proc which would be one of the Quick Draw elements. You can enjoy timing out and ill be acting like a complete tool by refusing to invite anyone for help.

[Malamasala]

The second procs are generalized, classes will be thrown to the side in favor of the best.

This would have been an argument if not the best jobs had the most procs today. It is like as soon as every job can proc, you'll only go with WAR, WHM, BLM etc... which is no difference to today.

[Sparthos]

This would have been an argument if not the best jobs had the most procs today. It is like as soon as every job can proc, you'll only go with WAR, WHM, BLM etc... which is no difference to today.

Your argument fails outside Abyssea.

WAR WHM BLM do not have all the procs there and you need procs if you want any shot at loot. The thread is called "Give all procs to classes!" and Voidwatch did that.

[MarkovChain]

Your argument fails outside Abyssea.

WAR WHM BLM do not have all the procs there and you need procs if you want any shot at loot. The thread is called "Give all procs to classes!" and Voidwatch did that.

No. The weaknesses are random so if you are on the wrong job you just wasted 30 min + w/e it took you to gather ("wyvern abilities, markmanship ws"). VW is the opposite of "give all procs to all jobs", it's either try until it procs something you have or bring all jobs so you are sure...

[Rearden]

But Voidwatch is so harrrrrrd

I want it like Abyssea (((((

lol, welcome to CoP FFXI nubs

[Kimara]

But Voidwatch is so harrrrrrd

I want it like Abyssea (((((

lol, welcome to CoP FFXI nubs

lol this ^^. I love Voidwatch it's been nothing but fun since we started doing it. Voidwatch being hard is one of the things that make it great!