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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Yeah, Hvergelmir needs something to make it worthwhile in a way that mages can actually use it for something other than just looks, or a toy on trash mobs.

    As it is now, it's completely useless to it's jobs on high end content such as Voidwatch, WoE, and even most of Abyssea. It adds a different play-style, yes, but such a play-style is more detrimental to yourself and your group rather than helpful, as the point of such jobs is powerful ranged damage with perks like debuffs/crowd control/curing(BLM, SCH)/ ranged hateless damage with tank/kite capabilities(SMN).

    The work =/= reward in this case, unlike the other Empyrean weapons. Sure, no one really wants the upgrade items so it wouldn't be hard to leech them, but I think I can speak for a ton of WoE/Emp/DA/OaT/Oa2-4 owners when I say that CAMPING LOTTERY SPAWN NMS THREE TO FOUR TIMES IN A ROW IS THE WORST EXPERIENCE I'VE EVER HAD ON THIS GAME.

    ... and yet I've done it five times ... q.q
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    See all the butthurt? LLH never disappoints. His deepest regret is that he has yet to find a SMN that cares about his Ukon.
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    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    See all the butthurt? LLH never disappoints. His deepest regret is that he has yet to find a SMN that cares about his Ukon.
    Parses Dallas, parses. Actually every good SMN I know also has an Ukon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    His deepest regret is that he has yet to find a SMN that cares about his Ukon.
    Actually, he knows me. He has seen the damage output my WAR can produce, and he knows that I'm one of the better SMNs in this game (or at least, on Asura) by his multiple complaining about my killing T2 mobs in Heroes solo. I would LOVE to see you attempt that as a melee mage Dallas.
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    Based on your forum troll standards, the only good SMN is one that brings WAR to everything but 3 fights, and any moron can BP/release like a champ. Of course they are the only SMN you know. That's why you can't actually talk about SMN in a SMN related thread.

    Love my ukon! I'm special!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Based on your forum troll standards, the only good SMN is one that brings WAR to everything but 3 fights, and any moron can BP/release like a champ. Of course they are the only SMN you know. That's why you can't actually talk about SMN in a SMN related thread.

    Love my ukon! I'm special!
    How many times have you died to AoE spam? How many times could you have not died from AoE spam if you were not out there whacking on the mob?

    Love my Hver! I'm special!
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    Hvergelmir is pretty useless.
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    Only if you don't play SMN. People who want an autoattack job for a sig clearly don't play SMN a whole lot. Let's just chalk it up to "bored WAR getting no attention from SE" so that you don't *have* to sound competent talking about SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    People who want an autoattack job clearly don't play SMN a whole lot.
    I can think of one guy who fits this criteria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulrunner View Post
    In all the years i've played this game SE has never gotten a single mage weapon right.
    Especially all those ele staves. Wtf was SE thinking!?
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