Thread: Maat 2.0

I find that to be somewhat selfish, at best. Basically, what you're requesting, is a genkai that's unnecessarily hard and requires people to waste countless hours getting the best gear, just to get a level cap raise.

I sympathize with the "knowing your job" sense, but making things hard to a ridiculous level seems... well, unnecessary, as I said. Sure, getting good gear and such is overall favorable, but expecting people with relic/myth/emp items to fail, when they're ideally the 'cream of the crop' as far as most weapons go...

Yeah, no. I just don't think it's a generally good idea. Sorry.

Leveling up isnt suppost to be the challenge. Mastering your skills is.

EXP doesnt = talent.

People used to exp back in the day for 5k an hour and still sucked. Some people will always suck even if they play the job all the time and some will kick ass. Its how the world works. Its why there are linkshells. So you can pick and choose who you play with.

If you are upset that some level 90 drk doesnt have great sword skill then fine. Be upset. Just dont play with him and dont complain to us.

Jeeze. What he does with his 13$ a month is their own business. You do NOT have to play with them. Ive had people be morons in parties giving me the "its my 13$ a month" argument. You know what I did? I either kicked them and got someone better or I left. Learn to do the same.

once again. Exp does not equal skill. Skill is something you either have or you do not. Its very hard to learn it.

Point is this. Don't complain. The original maat fights were never about skill. They were about whether he used asuran fists on your face 10 times in a row for no reason other than he could.

Took me 7 attempts to beat him on black mage. Why? After every nuke he would run over to me and asuran fists me killing me in about 5 seconds. The final time he stood there and tried casting against me instead. Gave me the time I needed to do what I had planned the last few attempts.

Every maat fight was just as annoying and I either won or lost. Skill didnt really play a part. Random number generator did. Maat version 2.0?

PUUULEASE. That isnt going to make a blind bit of difference. Thats just going to stop players whether they are good or bad from progressing. This idea is terrible.

I think this is a horrible idea on several levels. Think me mad, I actually enjoyed G5, it was a good challenge and one reason I like FFXI has been for some of its challenging gameplay. It frustrated me, yes, but it felt great winning. I enjoy challenges and I think with SE making FFXI more accessible, there should still be challenging content.

If you had a semi-impossible Maat fight, chances are, you'd need the best gear to do it and a good strategy to do it (either from multiple tries or successful testimonials). You wouldn't believe how many skilled players that already rules out. Difficult for people with emps means it's even more difficult for people without - or at least in general, so that in itself limits down to how many people go to 99, but also, how many jobs they take to 99 too. A lot of folk level jobs not because it's their preferred choice but because it's useful for events. Chances are, they'll take their preferred jobs to 99, not the ones they levelled to just be useful. Fewer players and fewer jobs means fewer people to party with that you need.

Then how many people will decide to quit? I'm willing to bet after people fail this ultra difficult Maat fight a number of times that they'll give up. If they've done most of the other content it wouldn't really be worth them staying.

So why should people be telling others how they should play the game and how to enjoy it. I find having patience with people in a party and explaining things clearly and offering advice is usually the successful option, I can't assume everybody knows everything or that they're well experienced. There's going to be failures, it's a game and it's not important and it's lessons for next time. People learn by doing. Maat 2.0 would be very limited and would probably not teach anybody anything of value...at the very best it'll teach them to solo...at best. The only thing I learned from SCH G5 was...how to do SCH G5. SCH G5 isn't how you solo SCH in a normal situation, then there's soooooo many other important lessons that a Maat fight can't teach you that's best learned by teaming up with other people like: keeping people in alliance healed, prioritising heals, maintaining enmity, when to buff, good AoE distance, avoidoing AoEs, when to time self-cast AoE buffs without taking a lot of damage, avoiding deadly strikes, dealing with mobs that charm, crowd control, stunning at the right time, keeping claim, knowing who to best raise and when, how to deal with specific NMs, mob weakness, strengths and absorbs, what moves certain mobs use - how to prevent them, how to resist them, the best set up to deal with them, best gear setups for different things, multitasking the job's different purposes, how to effectively manage recast and cast times and a whole number of other things.

How have I learned all that? By doing it. By making mistakes and learning from them, learning from other people, listening to advice and asking for advice and experimentation.

But face it people of different experiences play the game and when they start something new they need to be able to learn. They can't be expected to be perfect straight away - I know there's arrogant gamers, but I at least try my best to educate people in any group so that the end result is successful, rather than just getting frustrated at them. Does it work out? Yes. If you feel it's too much to babysit them, then fine, don't let them come, find somebody else to do the job. But being selective limits your choices (but it's your party at the end of the day).

So in my opinion, I should be the one selecting what kind of people I want in my group, not the game design.

Let's see, you're complaining about the game being too easy but you think it's too hard to spot the n00bs? Maybee your advanced playing ablities and years of experience on FFXI haven't given you the keen detection skills you so desprately need. Or maybee you're so mentaly ill you only want everyone to suffer as much as you have and can't muster any sympathy for others trying to play the game. Either way this is a bad idea.