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    Player Gunnerie's Avatar
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    Body WS Gear

    Hello all,

    I've been playing now for along time (since 04) and I finally figured I'd get around to leveling NIN. (Got it to 37 for SJ and left it there till new caps, then took to 50.) Now I'm working on leveling it to 90. I prefer the older way of playing so I do alot of parties/solo and I am avoiding Abyssea burning it, so I can actually skill it up correctly.

    I've read some posts that the AF1 body is great for Speed/TP Build, and we all know the SH is good also for TP/Eva. build. I just hit 67 recently and was wondering if my old Assault Jerkin would be the best Body to macro in for WS. Or is there something better I should aim for atm. If not what sould I look towards getting later on? (Other then Emp. Body which I plan on getting anyways.)
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    Haubergeon is a great WS piece until you get to your Empyrean Body
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    Ok I see what you're saying. I looked at the Mods for Blade: Jin and it makes alot of sence. I didn't think about just using it as a WS gear swap due to I see so many NIN's my level running around in it full time on my server.

    Now at what level would it be advisable for me to switch from wearing my SH as my main Body to maining my AF1 for the DW% ?
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    Player ThaiChi's Avatar
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    Test out your accuracy on your xp mobs. If you feel like you no longer need the accuracy boost from SH then use AF. Personally I've always liked using NIN AF1 body to tp, I still do even at 90 and I have many options (Usubody, Empyrean +2, Loki's, etc). I've generally preferred attack speed over accuracy in the body slot. Remember that accuracy issues can be compensated with food. Personally I got my AF body and ran with it until 75. I used SH for a brief while until I noticed the faster my attack rounds came, the better I was holding hate (back in the days where there was structure to xping). SH nowadays has been relegated to merely an Evasion body.

    I actually have a guide written on the wiki that's not just a list of gear that you can equip tailored to those who want experience NIN through the entire level range instead of flying through to 90. It's a bit long but it might be exactly what you're looking for.

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ni...Doing_it_right
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaiChi View Post
    SH nowadays has been relegated to merely an Evasion body.
    NQ SH doesn't even have a place as an Evasion body any more 78+, since Aurore is better (same acc/evasion, but also has STR and DA) and is dirt cheap. I personally don't think SH+1/Antares are worth it over Aurore for the marginally better evasion and loss of STR/DA. And there's also Alcide's+1 out there as a great (though more pricey) evasion piece that also helps DD significantly.
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    To be really brief about weapon-skill bodies:

    Loki's Kaftan and Iga Ningi +2 are the best options by far, with the winner generally being dependent on the situation and whether you're using Blade: Jin or Blade: Hi. I'm pretty sure Iga Ningi +2 wins out in almost all situations for Blade: Jin, but I'm totally sure Loki's Kaftan is still worth having.

    As for right this second, your best bet is probably a plain old Haubergeon or Haubergeon +1. You can pretend it's 2005, a more innocent time when many thought neo-grunge would go away after just a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anza View Post
    NQ SH doesn't even have a place as an Evasion body any more 78+, since Aurore is better (same acc/evasion, but also has STR and DA) and is dirt cheap. I personally don't think SH+1/Antares are worth it over Aurore for the marginally better evasion and loss of STR/DA. And there's also Alcide's+1 out there as a great (though more pricey) evasion piece that also helps DD significantly.
    The critdmg enhancement is very small, 2-3%. The difference in damage output between Alcide's +1 and Aurore is actually quite small as a result. Usukane Haramaki offers evasion equal to Antares Harness and more damage output than any of the aforementioned options; it's also fairly easy/cheap to get these nowadays.
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    I like my 3% DW 10 evasion mirke for evasion.
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    Y'all are probably gonna laugh at me, I don't have empyrean body yet, but I do have NQ SH and an NQ haubergeon, and above both of those I prefer to TP and WS in my koga chainmail. Just a personal preference since I solo a lot. Im not all that concerned about ws modifiers during solo work, but if modifiers are what you are looking for then NQ or HQ haubergeon are your best bet until +1 empyrean body.

    Actually, now that I think about it, aurore body would work as well. I have one of those too, I use it as main body when I solo, pull, or tank on dnc and stacking a lot of evasion will help with survivability. Other than that there are better TP pieces than this.

    Again these are simply personal preferences.
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    Last edited by Anethia; 09-27-2011 at 04:30 AM. Reason: Clarifying aurore doublet as situational.

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    Well in have to agree with Anethia, i dont have my iga body upgraded at all yet and have been trying to get my koga body for the last 2 years (which i got a few days ago btw. . . finally! ^^ 9-25-11) and i have been messing around with it on ws's. It seems to out dmg my loki's outside abyssea, not really sure i understand that myself but i did 25 ws's with lokis macro'ed in and 25 with koga and and my koga did 200-500 more dmg then loki's on 14 ws's. I dont know maybe my ninja is just broke lol. But it is all going to come down to what works best for you and what you like the best as well, but from the stats point of view i think iga body at +1/2 is really just a upgraded version of the koga.
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