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[Amerlyn]

I feel the need to reiterate my opinion.
It is just my opinion that anyones arguement for disagreeing that is based off of being too lazy to turn on/off a filter is invalid. In my opinion, laziness IS invalid.

As an example of laziness being invalid: Your in a party with a 90war who is using lvl30 weapons. And their only arguement for not getting better gear is they just didn't feel like going out and getting new gear. I don't think ANYONE would see that as a valid excuse.

Another example of an invalid arguement to me: ps2 limitations. yes i completely understand you wont be effected by the decision either way (at least until u upgrade to a better system). But it still isn't a good reason to argue with. Your opinion does matter. You can still agree or disagree with an idea being good, even if it doesn't effect u currently.

So all I am saying that is invalid is the arguement that supports the opinion. If its based off of pure laziness to type in a simple command, that is not a good arguement. I'm not saying your opinion that you don't like the idea is invalid. Just the arguement behind it is. Laziness to me is not an excuse.

As to the bashing thing, last night i was tired and took your words hard, i apologize. I have run a cross alot of rude people. Especially in game. I just returned to game 2weeks ago, after not being able to play for 2+yrs. Alot of people have been understanding of this and I haven't been given any grief over relearning macros and the game. But I have had experiences where I was in a zone and forgot how to get places, asked for directions or help in general and just been ignored. As with the bashing, I can't say I have been bashed. But I can say I have seen people bashed, name calling and such and I dont agree with it. Especially in a public area. I don't get how people get off on making people feel inferior. Its repulsive. All it proves is how much of a prick someone can be, and provokes the others into doing it too. Unfortuantely were all human so have to find some way to thrive off another's pain. I am begining to ramble off subject.

I do apologize if my statement offended. I just do not agree with an arguement based off of laziness. As far as turning on and off filters. It isn't more of a hassel than say doing an LS event. When someone would do Dynamis/Sky most LS would tell they're members to turn off everything except LS/Party chat to reduce lag. Yes it could become a hassel. But its not an arguement. The idea is good. The OP even stated a command where it was only on while in cities. So that in itself stops the hassel of turning it on and off all the time. I can see your arguement, I can even somewhat understand how if your the type turn it on/off constantly it would pose a problem. But honestly, I don't see people turning it on and off constantly. They turn it off when looking for help for something. They find help, turn it on and do the event. Then they either keep it turned on and do stuff solo or turn it on to look for help again. If a person is too lazy to turn it on and wants to complain about about spam or lag its not an arguement. The OP supplied an idea and way to make it tolerable. If you don't agree with the idea.. thats fine. But if you want to back it by saying its too much of a hassle to turn on and off a filter, don't just leave it at that, add to it.. make a suggestion you feel would make it more tolerable.. leaving it at just that puts off the view of laziness, there is no structure to support your arguement. Honestly Filters is the only sound reason I can see where this idea won't become a complete issue. If you see another reason that is better, state it. Finish the idea and don't leave it lacking.

Btw, I am not referring to you as GlobalVariable, I am referring to you as in the nay says. Its fine to disagree, just dont dis a single idea w/out giving an idea of your own to improve it. Put more reason besides "its too much of a hassel to type in a command" (again and i'm being repetative this just feels like laziness in my opinion). Add something in. "Its too much of a hassel having to type this command, why not do it this "way"?" Put a little more depth and structure to your arguement, back it up. Improve on it. And don't complain b/c I think its lazy, go back and improve/add to your arguement. Make it more solid. I'm not bashing you as an individual, in fact i hope i'm not bashing at all (though I might be bashing the arguements, thought that is what an arguement is. Arguing politely (no name calling or making someone feel inferior) and trying to prove/disprove an idea). Again I should have been a little more in depth with my statement and I apologize.

All I ask is for a more solid reasoning. Don't leave the arguement open and not finish it.

I hope I explained my part better, I am fully rested and had time to think my words out thoroughly before continuing. I also hope I didnt offend anyone. I do not mean to, but it happens (every person varies, a person could get offended by the word "apple" (possibly had a bad experience with it)). And if i did so I apologize.

[GlobalVariable]

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I'm just going to use this part rather than quote the mountain.

Yes it could become a hassel. But its not an arguement. The idea is good. The OP even stated a command where it was only on while in cities.

I brought the town thing to your attention in my post, it wasn't part of the original OP, you don't get to use it to say the argument was invalid after the fact. Everything I said, hinged on that feature and I stated so. The "nay say"ing was all before that feature was discussed in thread. Who it's all "at" doesn't matter especially when you can see I'm in the group you are addressing. And if someone act offended by "apple" I'm going to assume its trolling/flame baiting because that is simply not a reasonable reaction.

As with the bashing, I can't say I have been bashed. But I can say I have seen people bashed, name calling and such and I dont agree with it

Like calling a bunch of people you disagree with lazy. You said something I found offensive, I called you on it. I said something you found offensive, you called me on it. Lets not make this go 5 pages of explaining because of it.

[Amerlyn]

I'm done with arguing with you. Its obviously pointless. You keep thinking I am targeting you. You think you are in the group I mentioned, or at least seem to think I think you are (I don't). You took offense to something i said, I apologized for it. Yet continue to berate me for it. I am just gonna reword this one more time. And then if you continue to insist I am going after you I will take your advice and just use the ignore feature.

Again, I am sorry if you are feel you are in the group I am targeting, but honestly don't think you are. I am not arguing with you to say I am right. I am arguing with you so you can at least understand my opinion. I've already explained I can understand your view of how frustrating it could get typing turning something on/off all the time. And I only noted the "Town Feature" b/c I seen you agreed with the OP about it. Now to reiterate my opinion (a statement that is neither true or false, but is ones own thought on a certain matter) once more. It is my Opinion that anyone who believes it is too difficult or over taxing to type a simple command to turn a feature on or off i consider lazy. It is my opinion also that if you are going to use this as an excuse to disagree with, you should at least opt in an additional suggestion that you think will work. If you asked for a players opinion on something, are you going to settle with "I disagree(don't like it)" or "I disagree(dont like it) b/c I don't like this idea about it".. wouldn't you want a little more? Maybe a suggestion to improve on the idea? I'm not sure about you, but i sure do not like my ideas being shot down because of one detail. An idea is there to be improved upon, if a person doesn't like a detail they should at least suggestion something else in place of that detail.

Now for the reason why I don't associate you with the group I am targeting. You may have disagreed with one feature, but you didn't throw the idea out the door b/c of that one detail. Instead you remarked how the OPs idea of a town feature is a good idea and how you wouldn't mind the idea if it came with this feature.

I'm not going to apologize to you anymore on this subject. Either you understand me now, or you don't. I'm tired of apologizing for expressing my opinion.

Btw: the "apple" was an analogy.. obviously. My point there was you never know what a person is going to take offense to. It could be something you find stupid (or in my case lazy) but still set a person off. Please if you are going to quote me on something at least quote the whole thing and don't take it out of context. Its as bad as an attorney asking only questions that have answers to sway jury's to his/her side w/out showing the whole story behind it.

[GlobalVariable]

Dear mod admin person:

With no PM system I have no venue to speak with you other than to post. The post you deleted was no more off topic or inflammatory than the other posts you let stand.

I am just gonna reward this one more time. And then if you continue to insist I am going after you I will take your advice and just use the ignore feature.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ll=1#post20964

This poster is now acting like I've stalked them in a 2nd thread. I haven't even spoken to them, let alone about them, outside of this thread. Things like this obviously designed to cause anger get to stay but response stating I think I'm being baited gets removed. This isn't right.

[Darkwizardzin]

Dear mod admin person:

Things like this post obviously designed to cause anger get to stay but response stating I think I'm being baited gets removed. This poster is now acting like I've stalked them in a 2nd thread. This isn't right.

designed to cause anger...? I think you are just looking for something to be anger about. This person only has stated her opinion (and apologized more then once for them.. even though in my opinion she didn't need to) and your acting like you have been attacked again and again.

I think you need to just move on and stop making something out of nothing.

[GlobalVariable]

I think you need to just move on and stop making something out of nothing.

I didn't like people being called lazy.

The other person responded with a 9 paragraph post and saying I was bashing their intelligence.

I responded that we had both taken something the other said as offensive and asked for it to drop. They kept going, tossed out that "reward this comment" and accused me of following them in another thread. They've been acting like I attacked them from the beginning. Outside of this thread I have not spoken to or about them.

You quoted mid edit clarifying why I'm now ticked off. And we're more off topic now.