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    Suggestion: Server-Wide Chat Channel

    Seems I may have posted this in the wrong forum before. Or if not, then at least here it can be more widely viewed and discussed.

    I think FFXI would benefit from a server-wide chat channel (or two, or three, etc.) If it's within the capabilities of programming and server load etc I think it could be a great help. Most MMO's utilize some form of server-wide chat for forming groups and trading. Two things that could stand to be made easier in this one simple way. As it is right now shouting is hamfisted; it only works in one zone. Which is inefficient considering Jeuno is 4 zones, and many players still use Whitegate.

    Of course there would be bound to be misuses, but that's why any new chat element always comes with a chat filter to turn it off.

    On top of making goals easier to orchestrate, it just makes the game feel more alive. Usually when you log on to an MMO you get a sense there is traffic, and plenty of stuff going on via the chat. Typically if you log onto FFXI you'll feel like you're the only person in the zone (especially for any noobie who might try wandering through). This isn't a primary reason to justify doing it but it helps.

    How about this:
    3 different settings in chat filters as well as text commands.
    Filter Off - The server chat filter is set to off and you will see all chat in any zone.
    Contextual Filter - This setting automatically turns the filter off when entering towns and automatically turns it on outside towns.
    Permanent On Filter - Server chat is filtered out completely until you turn it off again.

    Type commands could be something like:
    /servchat off
    /servchat on
    /servchat town

    And it goes without saying that a minimum wait time between messages and standard things like the same limits that apply to shouts and tells now should be used.

    Why Seacoms Aren't as Good:
    There's good reasons no one uses seacoms. Usually I only see them for things like magian, and indicating lotting. Or leaving moronic messages like "Kitty meow meow time now!". Hardly any NA ever use them and heres why.

    -They're passive. Once you set one it remains and it could be old, you send someone a tell and they say like "oh yeah I was looking but now Im in an ls event" etc.
    -You can only set one purpose with limited description. But there can be any number of things you might be interested in doing.
    -They reset after you logout or D/C. It's Annoying to have to restate your seacom every time you reenter thee game.
    -Most people particularly NA don't ever use them anyways.
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    Last edited by Gwynplaine; 03-16-2011 at 07:00 AM. Reason: Added command ideas

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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    We're not WoW, we don't need channels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    We're not WoW, we don't need channels.
    You don't have to be WoW to make improvements to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    You don't have to be WoW to make improvements to the game.
    The WoW accusations are ironic, because while WoW-like games are more casual, they are a lot easier to form groups in. While in FFXI there's more emphasis on grouping, but the game is unhelpful to do so. If anything FFXI would make more use of it.
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    I wouldn't care as long as they give us the option to filter it out.
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    Just make shouts cities-messages and we're fine. Abuse wouldn't be different from now, and it would just allow to free the famouse PJ congestion.
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    I love to be in upper jeuno sometime, just to get ride of the /shout, no thanks for more spam in my screen. I think everyone already know where the shout are and if they really wan to see them, is easy to just zone there. Something SE i guess could do is an option to track shout from specific zone. (let say you spy Port jeuno shout while you in abyssea) A general channel like you say will just end to help RMT, or those player that love to shout any garbage like: Kirin do you need it, everything FFA except n.body, Osode, Shura body, w.leg /tell 10/18. [as much anyone can find this interesting to win a wind crystal from kirin, i really pass on the shout]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    I think everyone already know where the shout are and if they really wan to see them, is easy to just zone there.
    Right, because sitting around with your thumb up your ass in port jeuno is so productive, when you could be out doing something while watching shouts.

    If you're not interested in seeing it, you filter them. It's really not that hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Right, because sitting around with your thumb up your ass in port jeuno is so productive, when you could be out doing something while watching shouts.

    If you're not interested in seeing it, you filter them. It's really not that hard.
    Huh who said i don't wan see them? I wan to see my friend /tell me when they need me, do that mean i wan receive RMT tell, and for answer no, i would have to ignore everyone (RMT + Friend) don't come up with the 'you can blist' because you know as me how that never fixed anything.

    If you really bored that mean you not doing anything special from base, so why not just stay in jeuno, there always social linkshell that can tell you: Hey this guy shouting for what you looking, as it happen for everyone of us. Do i wan loose a Kclub sell for 1 gil, just because i refuse to watch zillion of spam, no...

    Also think about 1,000 player talking in same room, man i am hardly able to read my linkshell on peek time while i am farming and even more when i am doing hard event, just imagine try read 100x more spam. In the end it might just add up another issue of AFk'ness in general event (sorry i was reading)

    There a time and a place for everything, i doubt we need that amazing interference following us in every zone.
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    Also think about 1,000 player talking in same room, man i am hardly able to read my linkshell on peek time while i am farming and even more when i am doing hard event, just imagine try read 100x more spam.
    It's not a chat channel, it would be strictly for shout type announcements with 1-2 minute delays before you can type anything again. The whole point of it is for people to use it to form/join groups for seals, NM kills or XP alliance groups.
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