Test Server - Feedback on PUP

[Krysten]

I haven't noticed if WHM frame gets Regen IV or not but should! another thing is why is RDM still untouched? logic would say it woudl have more spells now with the raising of cap. i didnt notice but i didnt see BLM gettin Drain II i would even go far say let it have Bio III.

Id love to see more attachments giving it spells like say a AM attachment or Refresh

[brayen]

Why would we want refresh from our puppet >.>? pup shouldnt really be needing their mp pools for just about anything, as is they have no natural spells or mp. and AM is something we do NOT want, those spells are super long cast poor mp usage and are not effective in terms of dmg,

A new bio tier seems unlikely as rdm has to merit it.

Drain 2 would be nice but again unlikely, only DRK gets that and it is a blm frame not drk

[Krysten]

thats the point of an attachment that way the players that want to use them can and those that complain dont have to.

and we Gert Aspir II so not getting Drain II is silly.

[Krysten]

Obviously Refresh would be for ther auto not us DORK, you ever even played pup???

[brayen]

Obviously Refresh would be for ther auto not us DORK, you ever even played pup???

lol you arnt very smart then. if you do need refresh then put your refresh attachments...pro-tip they both work if you put them on at same time derp!
also deavtivate > activate can help with mp!

Adding to this, the puppet casts 1 spell every x seconds...and you want it casting refresh...lol derp derp more

[Alhanelem]

and we Gert Aspir II so not getting Drain II is silly.

No, i'ts not, Drain II is funcitonally different from Drain I. Aspir II is not, it's only more potent.

[Seha]

I don't want those things.

[Alkalinehoe]

How this thread went:
OP: We want these things!
PUPs: Uhhhh No we don't.
OP: Do you guys even play PUP?
Me: lol

[Telford]

Stormwaker does need to get new spells, I'd be happy with just the tier IV nukes, and I wouldn't say no to higher tier enfeebles, I would leave cure V to soulsoother though. (Also harl needs some love)

Drain II would be terrible until they fix the AI and even then a waste of a cast most of the time, after two nukes and receiving moderate damage all spiritreaver would cast would be Aspir II > Drain II > Aspir > Drain > repeat, spell resistance be damned.

As for refresh, we have refresh attachments already, and if you're proposing a refresh spell that can be cast on others, how would you have the automaton determine who to cast on? Everyone? People with mp? one mp merit or a piece of gear/food would see the war getting refresh instead of a cure. Only mage jobs/sub jobs? Would it be smart enough not to refresh those with sublimation active? Soulsoother already wastes enough time casting unnecessary -na spells and enfeebles that don't land when it should be curing having it try to buff the party (in any way) is just one more way its universal recast can be wasted when you really need a cure.

[Deadvinta]

Spiritreaver does need to get new spells, I'd be happy with just the tier IV nukes, and I wouldn't say no to higher tier enfeebles, I would leave cure V to soulsoother though. (Also harl needs some love)

Drain II would be terrible until they fix the AI and even then a waste of a cast most of the time, after two nukes and receiving moderate damage all spiritreaver would cast would be Aspir II > Drain II > Aspir > Drain > repeat, spell resistance be damned.

As for refresh, we have refresh attachments already, and if you're proposing a refresh spell that can be cast on others, how would you have the automaton determine who to cast on? Everyone? People with mp? one mp merit or a piece of gear/food would see the war getting refresh instead of a cure. Only mage jobs/sub jobs? Would it be smart enough not to refresh those with sublimation active? Soulsoother already wastes enough time casting unnecessary -na spells and enfeebles that don't land when it should be curing having it try to buff the party (in any way) is just one more way its universal recast can be wasted when you really need a cure.

Spiritreaver gets Tier IV AND Tier V nukes. Happy now?