Test Server - Feedback on PUP

[Zemarin]

welll its not... Sorry to Disagree with you but Valor Edge is nothing like Warrior at all. Valoredge is like a PLD and so is it's Dmg... the only thing that makes it not like a real pld is that it cant heal itself aside from that one Weak WS. Which imo was so stupid.. they should of Made Harrelquin not cast anything and the Paladin able to cure itself. but Leave it to SE to do stuff that makes no sense what so ever. SE if said that it wanted Valoredge to be able to compete with a Paladin.. Without Cure its never going to do that so they might as well has just made that lil shield another sword and colored it black and called it a ninja.

[Miera]

All I ask for is an AI fix. Maybe Some Automatons could use a few spells such as Addle and or Haste Maybe even protect and Shell but really, I just want it to stop trying to kill me.

Me: CURE MEEEEEE
Serenade: What's that? I see you are poisoned, let me cast Poisona on you.
Me: Nooo, I'm dying maaan!
Serenade: You want a Blindna too? Okay.
Me: Uh.. Well a cure would be nice..
Serenade: Ok your health seems to be low. How about a cure.
Miera has been defeated.

[Krysten]

oh Miera the jokes weve had on leviathan!!

[Miera]

Indeed. I swear she's trolling me half the time. =\

[Deadvinta]

Spiritreaver does need to get new spells, I'd be happy with just the tier IV nukes, and I wouldn't say no to higher tier enfeebles, I would leave cure V to soulsoother though. (Also harl needs some love)

Drain II would be terrible until they fix the AI and even then a waste of a cast most of the time, after two nukes and receiving moderate damage all spiritreaver would cast would be Aspir II > Drain II > Aspir > Drain > repeat, spell resistance be damned.

As for refresh, we have refresh attachments already, and if you're proposing a refresh spell that can be cast on others, how would you have the automaton determine who to cast on? Everyone? People with mp? one mp merit or a piece of gear/food would see the war getting refresh instead of a cure. Only mage jobs/sub jobs? Would it be smart enough not to refresh those with sublimation active? Soulsoother already wastes enough time casting unnecessary -na spells and enfeebles that don't land when it should be curing having it try to buff the party (in any way) is just one more way its universal recast can be wasted when you really need a cure.

Spiritreaver gets Tier IV AND Tier V nukes. Happy now?

[Deadvinta]

My PUP is 90, and I will agree that Valoredge is more DD than tank, but the Melee prowess in general have been left behind. Also, AI problems are easily fixed with the Tactical Processor. Since they've explained what it actually does, I've equipped it and my Automaton appears to heal at much more appropriate times, use the right spells (Scanner also helps), it'll weaponskill sooner, etc. Just trust the Tactical Processor a bit.

[Telford]

Spiritreaver gets Tier IV AND Tier V nukes. Happy now?

Sorry wrote spiritreaver instead of stormwaker, so no I'm still not happy.

[Zhronne]

welll its not... Sorry to Disagree with you but Valor Edge is nothing like Warrior at all. Valoredge is like a PLD and so is it's Dmg...

It was surely shaped and meant to be the "PLD version" of our Automatons, but there have been a few times since PUP release where Valoredge was our best DD automaton.
The new attachments coming out are enforcing even more the PLD-likeness idea, but I think I can see the point of what Korpg was trying to say. Can't say I agree, but I can definitely understand where it's coming from.

[Zhronne]

All I ask for is an AI fix. Maybe Some Automatons could use a few spells such as Addle and or Haste Maybe even protect and Shell but really, I just want it to stop trying to kill me.

That's what WE ALL want, but the thing is that creating a really SMART AI is very very difficult, it's especially more difficult when you have to improve an existing one instead than starting from scratch, when you have "PS2 limitations", when you're in an online environment such as an MMO with the additional variables of server-client latency and, last but not least, a very good AI would be particularly heavvy in terms of resources needed.

So while asking for a really smart AI would be the best, that would also be a bit too utopistic and naive from our side to demand.
I still stand by my position that it's much more realistic and reasonable to ask for something different, like spells timers split (would almost completely solve the -na > Cure issue) and other small tweaks.

[Seha]

Honestly I don't want the VE to waste dd potential on curing itself.