Dynamis Usury

[Auredant]

Anyone can get a relic. Just grind out gil and buy currency with it.

I got my relic by gardening, fishing and cooking for 4 years. I wanted a relic so I found a path to achieve that goal. If you won't put your nose to the grindstone to obtain the currency then you don't deserve to own a relic. If you want one then find a way make it happen rather then wallowing Gollum-like in jealousy while hoping for SE to give you one for minimal effort.

I'd argue that they deserve it due to their years of participation in an event that takes 4ish hours long and can't get any relic because they're not part of the "inner circle" in their shell.

[Atomic_Skull]

I'd argue that they deserve it due to their years of participation in an event that takes 4ish hours long and can't get any relic because they're not part of the "inner circle" in their shell.

You mean they can't get a relic because they don't have the determination to make it happen.

[HFX7686]

If they werent vital...why take them?

Because they might want gear and are welcome to come lot on it if they want.

No one has to go to Dynamis if they don't want to go.

I'd argue that they deserve it due to their years of participation in an event that takes 4ish hours long and can't get any relic because they're not part of the "inner circle" in their shell.

It's very silly to assume that there are shadowy cliques out there getting all the gear for themselves while using the hard work of the naive proletariat.

If someone wants to work on a relic they can put together a Dynamis shell by recruiting people, planning a time to go, researching how to run Dynamis, coming up with a set of rules for lotting, figure out how to fund the runs, and actually lead the runs.

Showing up twice a week for a couple of years, joining a party when invited, getting an hourglass, trading the hourglass to the mark, and engaging mobs mindlessly for 2-3 hours does not give anyone the right to feel they deserve to obtain a relic.

If you want one, figure it out, plan it, and work for it. If you're unwilling to do that, continue to show up or don't. It's your choice.

[Auredant]

Because they might want gear and are welcome to come lot on it if they want.

No one has to go to Dynamis if they don't want to go.



It's very silly to assume that there are shadowy cliques out there getting all the gear for themselves while using the hard work of the naive proletariat.

If someone wants to work on a relic they can put together a Dynamis shell by recruiting people, planning a time to go, researching how to run Dynamis, coming up with a set of rules for lotting, figure out how to fund the runs, and actually lead the runs.

Showing up twice a week for a couple of years, joining a party when invited, getting an hourglass, trading the hourglass to the mark, and engaging mobs mindlessly for 2-3 hours does not give anyone the right to feel they deserve to obtain a relic.

If you want one, figure it out, plan it, and work for it. If you're unwilling to do that, continue to show up or don't. It's your choice.

Bottom line is that without those so called "useless" people you wouldn't have your relic. I'd think you'd be a little more appreciative but you probably think you did it all yourself. And if everyone who wanted a relic tried to put together a shell, they're be too many shells and not enough members...unrealistic, especially late in the game.

[HFX7686]

Bottom line is that without those so called "useless" people you wouldn't have your relic. I'd think you'd be a little more appreciative but you probably think you did it all yourself. And if everyone who wanted a relic tried to put together a shell, they're be too many shells and not enough members...unrealistic, especially late in the game.

No, the bottom line is that the "useless people" (and I am sure I never stated it that way) are welcome to come and get AF2 if they want to, but they are not required to attend.

If they really wanted a relic they would figure it out.

And you should know, I led a Dynamis linkshell for several years and did not work on a relic myself. I know first hand how useless some people can be when they show up thinking they're vital but mostly get in the way and do nothing but complain about not getting a relic themselves.

[Atomic_Skull]

Before Abyssea relics were the most egalitarian "elite" items to obtain as it it wasn't a matter of knowing the right people or being in the right shell as it was with kings gear. You could either run an LS, or if you didn't want to go that route grind out gil through crafting and fishing or whatever and buy all the currency + merc the fragment and attestations.

Sure it took years but it could be done by anyone, unlike items like the Adaberk or Ridill that were outright impossible to obtain for anyone not in the right clique.

[Orenwald]

It's very silly to assume that there are shadowy cliques out there getting all the gear for themselves while using the hard work of the naive proletariat.

You must not be from Alexander :3