Dynamis Usury

[Orenwald]

It's very silly to assume that there are shadowy cliques out there getting all the gear for themselves while using the hard work of the naive proletariat.

You must not be from Alexander :3

[HFX7686]

Bottom line is that without those so called "useless" people you wouldn't have your relic. I'd think you'd be a little more appreciative but you probably think you did it all yourself. And if everyone who wanted a relic tried to put together a shell, they're be too many shells and not enough members...unrealistic, especially late in the game.

No, the bottom line is that the "useless people" (and I am sure I never stated it that way) are welcome to come and get AF2 if they want to, but they are not required to attend.

If they really wanted a relic they would figure it out.

And you should know, I led a Dynamis linkshell for several years and did not work on a relic myself. I know first hand how useless some people can be when they show up thinking they're vital but mostly get in the way and do nothing but complain about not getting a relic themselves.

[Atomic_Skull]

Before Abyssea relics were the most egalitarian "elite" items to obtain as it it wasn't a matter of knowing the right people or being in the right shell as it was with kings gear. You could either run an LS, or if you didn't want to go that route grind out gil through crafting and fishing or whatever and buy all the currency + merc the fragment and attestations.

Sure it took years but it could be done by anyone, unlike items like the Adaberk or Ridill that were outright impossible to obtain for anyone not in the right clique.