Test Server- Feedback on SMN

[Korpg]

I have to say, Shock Squall is underachieving at best. While the stun effect does last longer than most forms of stun at earlier levels (Head Butt, Stun, etc) it is still about the same duration of Chaotic Strike, same time to get it ready, and not really that great compared to the other stun moves coming in this update (Thunderbolt and Sudden Lunge from BLU). Unless the duration is improved, I don't see this BP being used at all, even for solo situations (Shock Spikes are still the best for stunning because it procs a lot more often).

Soothing Ruby can't really be tested because of the limited number of effects that can be erased depending on the magic skill. And the test server has the ability set anyway.

In all seriousness, Shock Squall needs to be more powerful in order to justify it being considered at all. Neither nerfing Sudden Lunge nor making the duration determined by skill level will make this worthwhile if the duration is less than 15 seconds on average.

[Alhanelem]

Umm... you know they made a special forum section for test server feedback right?

[Korpg]

Umm... you know they made a special forum section for test server feedback right?

No, I didn't. Can you please elaborate as to where the appropriate feedback should be posted? Besides SMN forums because that deals with issues for the job as it currently stands, not with testing features which is what this thread is about.

[Malamasala]

I unblocked your post to read your praise of SE, and what do I see? Complaints! If I didn't know better, I could have thought it was my own post. (Not that I've tested the abilities)

Honestly though, I don't see SE doing anything about this. They don't care about function, they care about appearance. Ramuh reading a giant AOE stun is cool. As with the whole Summoner job it will be up to us to try our best and find a purpose for the ability. (And so far we've guessed that this might help after sleepga to pull hate on ramuh)

SE are welcome to prove my ever negative opinion wrong by fixing it though. I dare them.

[Korpg]

I unblocked your post to read your praise of SE, and what do I see? Complaints! If I didn't know better, I could have thought it was my own post. (Not that I've tested the abilities)

Well, I have tested the abilities and have noticed that the stun effect is very underwhelming, and if the supposed reason to use this is to gain enmity from BLMs, then we should use Thunderspark on the mobs prior to the mobs being slept instead of this new BP (since Stun is so effective against sleeping mobs).

Honestly though, I don't see SE doing anything about this. They don't care about function, they care about appearance. Ramuh reading a giant AOE stun is cool. As with the whole Summoner job it will be up to us to try our best and find a purpose for the ability. (And so far we've guessed that this might help after sleepga to pull hate on ramuh)

They do care about function, otherwise DRG would have stayed at being a loljob with their 2hr being Call Wyvern, PUPs having a 20 minute recast timer on their automatons, and RNGs not having their own form of haste for Ranged Attacks.

SE are welcome to prove my ever negative opinion wrong by fixing it though. I dare them.

You at least admitted that you have a negative outlook for this job. That is a start towards striving for a more positive thinking of everything, at least.

[Kojo]

I unblocked your post to read your praise of SE, and what do I see? Complaints! If I didn't know better, I could have thought it was my own post. (Not that I've tested the abilities)

Honestly though, I don't see SE doing anything about this. They don't care about function, they care about appearance. Ramuh reading a giant AOE stun is cool. As with the whole Summoner job it will be up to us to try our best and find a purpose for the ability. (And so far we've guessed that this might help after sleepga to pull hate on ramuh)

SE are welcome to prove my ever negative opinion wrong by fixing it though. I dare them.

I swear, I did the same, was expecting the same. We may be soulmates...

[Alkar]

I don't think anything can be said about Summoner so far considering both BPs are not working as intended.
The only thing that bugs me is that the animation is the same as Stun.
I'd rather get something unique like the other avatars did considering they bothered to change the name.

[Korpg]

Well, the Japanese name is still technically Stunga, so it is appropriate animation effect as Stun.

[Malamasala]

You at least admitted that you have a negative outlook for this job. That is a start towards striving for a more positive thinking of everything, at least.

I'm more or less positive about 19 of 20 jobs. I think that isn't such a bad ratio of positive to negative. I'm just too lazy to actually post positive things everywhere, instead of negative things in a handful of threads.

If you happen to have a positive bot I can run to spam the forum with happiness, I'd be up for it though.

[Korpg]

I'm more or less positive about 19 of 20 jobs. I think that isn't such a bad ratio of positive to negative. I'm just too lazy to actually post positive things everywhere, instead of negative things in a handful of threads.

If you happen to have a positive bot I can run to spam the forum with happiness, I'd be up for it though.

Out of everything in the post you quoted, you had to bring this out?

Anyway, the only thing I have ever seen you post about that wasn't about SMN was to the other jobs that they should be glad to not have global timers (like SMN has with BPs) and remark about how great they have it vs SMN and the "problems" you think that SMN has....