SE, Temper Activation Rate

[Shiyo]

Ontop of everything that RDM already has going for it

Like?

Or are we in 2004 still? Aerial armor rotations gogo?

[Cursed]

Like?

Or are we in 2004 still? Aerial armor rotations gogo?

youtube search Avesta if you really need to know what RDM is capable of.
If you're going to argue that all that content was outside Abyssea, I will simply state

1. there are a lot of other jobs that are not needed in Abyssea - or jobs that are needed even less. (pup/smn/dnc/sch/drg/drk/sam/bst/cor) + BLU and BRD are only needed for yellow procs.
2. RDM still brings a lot to the table - Maybe they don't cure as well as a WHM, but that is something that should have been the case from day 1.
3. RDM is vital for a lot of newer content - VW.

[Supersun]

3. RDM is vital for a lot of newer content - VW.

Really...name one thing that you would invite a Red Mage over a more specialized job for.

[Cursed]

Really...name one thing that you would invite a Red Mage over a more specialized job for.

A more specialized job?
RDM is king of diversity. the jack of all trades and master of none.
I would rather depend on a RDM's refreshII than BRDs ballads or COR's evokers for a number of reason too numerous to mention.
I would rather depend on a RDM for enfeebling as well.
and while RDM isn't the best healer, it is an amazing back up healer.
also depending on situation, more times than not RDM is great at crowd control. Not the best, but still more than capable of being effective.

[Shiyo]

youtube search Avesta if you really need to know what RDM is capable of.
If you're going to argue that all that content was outside Abyssea, I will simply state

1. there are a lot of other jobs that are not needed in Abyssea - or jobs that are needed even less. (pup/smn/dnc/sch/drg/drk/sam/bst/cor) + BLU and BRD are only needed for yellow procs.
2. RDM still brings a lot to the table - Maybe they don't cure as well as a WHM, but that is something that should have been the case from day 1.
3. RDM is vital for a lot of newer content - VW.

I just did voidwatch as a RDM, cure4 is crap and not good enough to heal at all, we need to bring multiple WHM's for real healing. My only role is to apply saboteur slow2,addle(lol whm can do this next level cap increase) refresh2 the whm's/blms, and haste people.

RDM is much better and more fun outside, I don't care about abyssea, I only play ninja inside there and straight up refuse to play RDM inside there. Being worthless isn't fun. Still doesn't change the fact RDM isn't very good outside, and still an incredibly weak healer. We NEED another cure, it can be cure4 2.0 or cure5 -1, I don't care, it's completely insane a blu gets cure5 -1 and curaga4 -1 while SCH and RDM is still using cure3/4. Cure3 isn't even worth the button press anymore........

Temper need to be castable on party members, we need more buffs for party members, we need a new cure tier, or just a copy of cure4 that we can press to spam 2 cure4's back to back if they're sooo afraid of giving sch and RDM a cure5 for some unknown reason. We also need more enfeebles or monsters that aren't immune(or very very resistant) to ANY of our enfeebles.

Also, I guess it is 2004 if you're saying "SEARCH AVESTA". Well, you can dual box or duo/trio all those NM's he's soloing in 2004 right now in less than 10 mins, so who cares.