SE, Temper Activation Rate

[SpankWustler]

What's the duration of Temper? At just 5% Double Attack, it very seems possible to actually lose attack rounds by taking the time to cast such a spell.

Edit: I think Red Mage's soloing capabilities in 2006 are probably the worst possible way to measure how the job should be updated today. The game is totally different nowadays.

[Supersun]

What's the duration of Temper? At just 5% Double Attack, it very seems possible to actually lose attack rounds by taking the time to cast such a spell.

Same as the other 90% of Rdm's enhancing spells.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

What's the duration of Temper? At just 5% Double Attack, it very seems possible to actually lose attack rounds by taking the time to cast such a spell.

Edit: I think Red Mage's soloing capabilities in 2006 are probably the worst possible way to measure how the job should be updated today. The game is totally different nowadays.

3 minutes naturally, 9 minutes with composure.

ETA: Wow, the forums are messed up for me, keeps changing the order the posts appear in.

[Seriha]

3 minutes, can be boosted by Composure and other gear.

[SpankWustler]

Figuring in Composure's bonus to the duration, at 5% the spell easily remains worth casting even at capped delay reduction. I didn't take double attack from other sources or equipment that lengthens spell durations into account, but since the result is just "yes" or "no" and the spell sucks either way, I figure that's not too important.

[saevel]

Well with composure, AF+2 boots and cape we're talking the same duration as haste.
180 * 1.3 * 3.0 = 702 seconds or 11:42. Even at 5% you'd still gain attack rounds, especially if setup a macro that applied your combat related buffs at once.

/ma Phalanx <me> <wait 6> (can't remember exact wait I used)
/ma Gain-STR <me> <wait 7>
/ma Temper <me>
<Insert any other needed buffs here>

I do this whenever an opertunity presents itself, either before / after a fight or during a natural pause in the combat. Contrary to what some of the DD's would have people believe, we don't fight brick wall's with infinite HP for loot.

[Tashan]

But does Temper stack with equipment/job traits?

If so, I cannot see a problem with 5% rate.

DA Khanda +2 = 10%
Atheling Mantle = +3%
Brutal Earring = +5%
Calmecac Trousers = +3%

RDM already has 20% in respectable equipment DA.

Potentially 30% if one opts to /WAR for the job trait (arguably not).

With DA Khanda +2 being upgradable in the next update for more DA, Temper's 5% put's RDM closer to the 50% cap and is quite respectable.

[SpankWustler]

But does Temper stack with equipment/job traits?

If so, I cannot see a problem with 5% rate.

DA Khanda +2 = 10%
Atheling Mantle = +3%
Brutal Earring = +5%
Calmecac Trousers = +3%

RDM already has 20% in respectable equipment DA.

Potentially 30% if one opts to /WAR for the job trait (arguably not).

With DA Khanda +2 being upgradable in the next update for more DA, Temper's 5% put's RDM closer to the 50% cap and is quite respectable.

Since it's not possible to Double Attack on a Double Attack, getting closer to the cap would just make the spell's effect on attack rate relatively less. I see where you're coming from, though, since a 50% cap implies that 25+~35+% is a lot of Double Attack.

[Seriha]

But does Temper stack with equipment/job traits?

If so, I cannot see a problem with 5% rate.

DA Khanda +2 = 10%
Atheling Mantle = +3%
Brutal Earring = +5%
Calmecac Trousers = +3%

RDM already has 20% in respectable equipment DA.

Potentially 30% if one opts to /WAR for the job trait (arguably not).

With DA Khanda +2 being upgradable in the next update for more DA, Temper's 5% put's RDM closer to the 50% cap and is quite respectable.

Until the update goes live and people can use their parsers and such again, this'll be hard to test. As is, the proposition of a RDM subbing WAR makes some froth at the mouth, especially in a party setting.

[Tashan]

Until the update goes live and people can use their parsers and such again, this'll be hard to test. As is, the proposition of a RDM subbing WAR makes some froth at the mouth, especially in a party setting.

Lol anti-rdm melee antics aren't as dramatic as people like to make out to be.

It's only when they do it wrong or over-exaggerate do peoPle react.