SE, Temper Activation Rate

[Duelle]

Personally I think that SE should make a new FFXI with all the same mechanics stories, etc. on a updated platform, and then build from there. They might just get theire old player base back.

I'd only go for it if they decide to go with advance class/class specializations for each job instead of a subjob system, that way hybrids aren't swallowed in civil war like the RDM playerbase currently is.

If RDM was then to progress as

Red Mage
Option A: Magic Fencer
Option B: Support Caster

I'd be one happy taru.

[Shiyo]

Red Mage
Option A: Magic Fencer

Uh, that job exists. It's called blue mage.

[Duelle]

Uh, that job exists. It's called blue mage.

And now we come full circle. Monster magic, pointy shoes and a scimitar does not equal pimp hat, rapier, and black/white magic.

[Karbuncle]

LOL? RDM has gained like 3 new pieces of melee gear since 75, compare that to ANY other melee job in the game for a huge lol.

The Quote was (And forgive me for paraphrasing) "RDM has no good gear choices for melee" and i said "You're wrong". Try sticking to the context of my words. I didn't say RDM was a good DD or it got a load of new 76+ DD Options.

ever.

The entire af3+2 set is also DESIGNED FOR CASTING, notice how the sets are perfectly designed for every single job? Yeah, you're supposed to be casting.

Irrelevant to what i said. You said RDM has no good DD gear. I said you were wrong. Please stick to what i said.

RDM isn't even on twilight or bullwhip belt, making it need a speed belt, swift belt or goading belt. Zelus tiara and goading belt also don't count as new melee gear for RDM because they can be equipped by ALL jobs.

Also Irrelevant? Where did i say they had new melee gear? I named the 1 piece i found relevant (Calmacac Trousers). Goading belt is a given though. That being said, Even though i agree RDM isn't a melee (I made the RDM magic thread Heyo), You're arguments are hideously flawed and its actually making "RDM magic" crowd look bad.

Also notice how RDM is only on the teal set(caster set) and not the perle(heavy DD) or aurore(light DD) sets? Going to take the hint yet?

How is this relevant again? "RDM has no good Melee gear choices" was the context of what you said. I proved you wrong. How is their gear selection 76+ Relevant?

Also, really? "cap equip haste with relative ease"? Are we playing the same game?

Goliard Saio.

I guess needing a SPEED BELT, dusk +1 feet, dusk +1 gloves, a zelus tiara

Zelus 8%
Goliard 4%
Goading 5%
Dusk Hands3%
Calmacac 3%
Dusk Feet 2%

Is 25%, HQ Feet or Hands and you get 26% (true 25% Cap). Dusk Feet/hands +1 are dirt cheap these days too compared to old prices. Its rather accessible.

(LOL @ ever getting that on RDM)

Guess someones doesn't have friends? That NM is killed so often Zelus' hit the ground. I guess it'd probably be hard for someone like you. You're a Sparky fella, So quick to get angry, you actually went on this lovely rant just because i pointed out RDM has a few good DD gear selections.

I even agree I don't feel RDM is a melee.

and 2M pants is "cap equip haste with relative ease".

I guess going to the Auction house is a bit difficult? oh well, If you can't afford Calmacac (lol) you can always get the ASA pants with Haste+3 i suppose. They aren't good for much else these days.

You don't even have 26% haste with this gear, and would need a goliard saoi

I'm sorry, Whats wrong with needing level 75 armor? Dusk+1 hands are still the best for a few jobs How is the level of the armor remotely related to its usefulness so long as its stats are still relevant?

from something no one does, and has no other DD stats at all lol...) in order to reach 26% haste.

Uh, Haste+4% is the only DD stat that matters on that body, Of course, but its a darn good one.

So from level 75 - > 90, RDM has gained a grand total of 2 pieces of new TP gear that isn't equippable by ALL jobs, atheling mantle and calmace trousers.

Relevant how?

Hey look, brd is on them too, should we go to the brd forums and make a 300 page thread DEMANDING a buff to our BRD meleeing abilities? Maybe we should!

Actually, Believe it or not, BRD is a great DD in Abyssea. But what isn't. Kinda irrelevant. But they can pump out some good Evisceration numbers, that and they can Self March, That puts them in a good spot.

Funny thing is, bard has access to much better WS and TP gear(hecatomb, byakkos, blah blah blah) than a RDM ever will, while also capping haste more easily and access to better daggers(magian daggers and twashtar). Not even mentioning the fact RDM doesn't get a single good sword WS natively, getting the same dagger weapon skills a bard gets. BRD DD LETS GO!!!!!

Still not in context with what i said, However, RDM can use Chant Du Cygne, which is leagues ahead of Rudras (unless you're a THF or DNC).

"Funny thing" is, You said (i'm paraphrasing) "RDM has no good options for DD Gear", and i named its good options. Dunno where this all came from.

RDM has gained 2 new pieces of DD gear since level 75, other DD jobs have gained an entire af3+2 set, and numerous other misc items, including the perle/aurore set and other AH/VW options.

Relevant how? Who cares if the Armor's level 72 If its still amazing DD gear?

RDM is not a melee DD job.

You seem to not understand what i'm saying, Here's a quote from me on your post:

I agree with what you're saying

This right here is me saying i agree RDM is not a melee, I was simply pointing out they have GEAR to melee. Who cares if its level 75 or lower when its there and actually decent armor?
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[cidbahamut]

And now we come full circle. Monster magic, pointy shoes and a scimitar does not equal pimp hat, rapier, and black/white magic.

Box art does not a job make.

[Shiyo]

Level 76+ gear matters because every other REAL dd job got INSANE new gear. Keep thinking RDM got has good melee gear though, considering a BLM SMN BRD WHM has the same melee options almost, and brd even has better : ( No good "amazing" DD gear here, go read a real DD's jobs af3+2 to see real DD gear......not trash we used 15 levels ago. wtf.

Next time don't reply to my entire post with "no you're wrong, no you're 12, no you're raging, no you're immature, no irrelevant lulz!", thanks.

[Karbuncle]

Level 76+ gear matters because every other REAL dd job got INSANE new gear. Keep thinking RDM got good melee gear though, considering a BLM SMN BRD WHM has the same melee options almost, and brd even has better

I don't think RDM is a DD, I don't think they will ever become a DD based on SE's track record. My only argument was they have some Decent DD gear options.

Its just not enough to make them good at it. Nothing more nothing less. I feel RDM should be a Nuker/Enhancer/Enfeebler myself.

And for what its worth, Hecatomb+1 gear, augmented, is some of the best WS armor for the jobs on it. Level is irrelevant if the stats are still decent!

Next time don't reply to my entire post with "no you're wrong, no you're 12, no you're raging, no you're immature, no irrelevant lulz!", thanks.

I'll reply how i want, thanks.

Maybe next time try not to type a 3 paragraph rage fest simply because i called you out on what is the only 1 i disagreed with in your entire post. I agree RDM isn't a melee, I was only pointing out they have Melee gear. Its level is irrelevant as long as the stats are still amazing, and it is.

[Shiyo]

And now we come full circle. Monster magic, pointy shoes and a scimitar does not equal pimp hat, rapier, and black/white magic.

Blu is also a better nuker and healer than RDM, black/white magic what?

[FrankReynolds]

I doubt that a cost/benefit ratio would tell them that recoding a game that is nearly a decade old is worth it. For as much as we would love FFXI to look like FFXIV (it would be amazing) or just even kind of improved graphics and archetecture, I doubt that the shareholders would consider it economically feasible, especially since the game is such a cash cow with so little money put into development costs anymore.

haven't they done a few successful remakes of previous titles already?

[Shiyo]

I don't think RDM is a DD, I don't think they will ever become a DD based on SE's track record. My only argument was they have some Decent DD gear options.

Its just not enough to make them good at it. Nothing more nothing less. I feel RDM should be a Nuker/Enhancer/Enfeebler myself.

And for what its worth, Hecatomb+1 gear, augmented, is some of the best WS armor for the jobs on it. Level is irrelevant if the stats are still decent!

http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Goliard_Saio
vs
http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Mavi_Mintan_%2B2
and
http://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Tantra_Cyclas_%2B2
etc etc
Also -acc makes for some good tp pants on a job with horrible acc~

rawr such good stats

w/e I don't care, don't call me ignorant when you still think we're level 75 and af3+2 doesn't exist for dd jobs