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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    MNK Lv 5
    Quote Originally Posted by Return1 View Post
    A lot of people seem to want to pitch relic fixes without actually having relics.

    The single hit nature of Relic WSs is a boon, not a shortcoming. This means we can virtually ignore accuracy altogether, adding more WSC mods. Having +1 to fTP is essentially the same as adding an extra hit as well, disregarding the extra tp per hit, it's actually better.

    The +25% damage to Relic Weaponskills last upgrade was amazing and closed the gap significantly. In fact, for some noncrit WS Empyreons, the Relics are pretty even, maybe even slightly better. A nice benefit of adding a 1.25 multiplier to the end is that it boosts DA/TA/QA procs, and SE damage for DRKs, whereas a straight fTP boost wouldn't affect those.

    If SE at very least adds a 1.50 multiplier Relics should catch up significantly in WS damage, but either making all WSs capable of crits or 1.75 multipliers would make Relics worth it again.
    The suggested 1.75 cRatio multiplier is not a direct damage multiplier, it would make the WS partially ignore level difference like Y/G/K/ Steel Cyclone, Spinning Slash etc. It is similar to (though not precisely the same as) giving the WS an attack bonus. I advocate that rather that just increasing the fTP because it wouldn't necessarily make the WS more damaging (it would do nothing on mobs that were less than T), but would make it more useful on high level mobs.

    Single hit with a moderate fTP isn't much of a boon on Mercy Stroke, 9 times out of 10 you end up spamming Evisceration anyway. A 4 hit crit WS with a 3.0 fTP on the first hit would be far more useful to THF.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    This is assuming that relic Weaponskills actually get an accuracy bonus. From my experience... They don't.
    All physical WS have an accuracy bonus to the first hit.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 09-02-2011 at 02:01 PM.