Temper info

[Neisan_Quetz]

Apparently you didn't read what I said the first time, go read it again about what I said about stronger NMs. Even then Rdm still has more defensive tools than most melee assuming capped DT sets.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

Yeah we should all be subbing NIN and meleeing in our awesome af3 with awesome melee stats while wiffing 75% of the time and hitting for 2-10, giving the mob unlimited TP then being 1 shot by a random AOE

Your trolling attempts are getting worse.... try harder.

Interesting fact for you...

RDM with full 50% -DT is better than a DD with 50% -DT... Reason why you ask?! Phalanx, Stoneskin and MDB.

[saevel]

It's ok, shes not an actual RDM, she abyssea burned it.

Of all the jobs in the game, the two hardest to kill are PLD and RDM. PLD's have crazy pdt / mdt sets with their shields, RDM's have crazy buffs. Or did people miss the crazy solo's all those guys were doing, where they stood toe to toe with Bune, a NM that would eat other melee's in seconds (at 75). Or the lv90 Jormy Solo. Although truth be told, these have done more to hurt the job then help it, "RDM is very powerful, we're not sure what we want to do".

[Shiyo]

Brb going to level in onzozo and valley of sorrows again so I be a real RDM

[Rayik]

Brb going to level in onzozo and valley of sorrows again so I be a real RDM

It's a start...

Really, just quit with the "every one who doesn't play like me is wrong" attitude. RDM gets swords. Some people like using them. Deal with it.

[cidbahamut]

It's a start...

Really, just quit with the "every one who doesn't play like me is wrong" attitude. RDM gets swords. Some people like using them. Deal with it.

Can we get a halt on the "every one who didn't level like me is wrong" attitude as well? Getting tired of hearing it tossed around by folks. I know you haven't Rayik, but it gets old hearing such silliness over and over again just like the "everyone who doesn't play like me is wrong" sound bit gets old.

[Rayik]

Can we get a halt on the "every one who didn't level like me is wrong" attitude as well? Getting tired of hearing it tossed around by folks. I know you haven't Rayik, but it gets old hearing such silliness over and over again just like the "everyone who doesn't play like me is wrong" sound bit gets old.

Fair enough.

[saevel]

Can we get a halt on the "every one who didn't level like me is wrong" attitude as well? Getting tired of hearing it tossed around by folks. I know you haven't Rayik, but it gets old hearing such silliness over and over again just like the "everyone who doesn't play like me is wrong" sound bit gets old.

Sorry but no, there is a significant difference between someone who actually leveled with cycles and screaming party leaders, and someone who leveled while AFK or opening box's.

Leveling inside abyssea isn't bad, but she's missing a few years worth of experience before her opinions will carry any weight, and seeing the tone used in her posts it's obvious she has no plans to actually play the job.

[cidbahamut]

I'll grant you that she doesn't really have much to contribute to the discussion, but I still object to your "uphill both ways or No True Scottsman" rhetoric.

[Rayik]

Sorry but no, there is a significant difference between someone who actually leveled with cycles and screaming party leaders, and someone who leveled while AFK or opening box's.

Leveling inside abyssea isn't bad, but she's missing a few years worth of experience before her opinions will carry any weight, and seeing the tone used in her posts it's obvious she has no plans to actually play the job.

*Applauds*

For the record, I Aby-burned my DRG, DNC, and finished off WAR(was already pretty high, just not 75). But, any time I post in one of those forums, it's to ask a question and gain knowledge from the more experienced folk. People who ABy-burn a job as complex as RDM really have no weight to come into a forum and start bad-mouthing experienced players and optional play styles.