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    Player Nightfyre's Avatar
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    Eyeballing damage isn't going to give us concrete data unless you're willing to do some very tedious parsing, but there is a method that can. /ra damage is basically static at capped pDIF. Find a zone that has both a high-level monster (to damage you) and a nearby low-level monster (to test with). Use a crossbow and compare damage with/without Scarlet Delirium. Tests on magic won't require any special equipment.

    I used West Sarutabaruta mandies and T2 VNMs to conduct some brief tests earlier. After taking ~half of my HP in damage, my ranged attacks on the mandies did 13.3% more damage (170 vs 150, possible 35/256 enhancement when accounting for flooring?). Absorb-INT went from 22 absorbed without Scarlet Delirium to 30 with it up and most of my HP lost. I also tried Blizzard III but couldn't seem to get higher than a 3% bonus, didn't get a chance to test magical WS but I do intend to go back and Herculean Slash a few NMs eventually, as well as reviewing my other tests if no further information has arisen from properly structured tests. However, it will be a few days before I can do so.
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    While you can go on about solid numbers or parsing we're talking about how the duration is too short to have any use.

    We can all presume the DMG bonus is between 10-20% from all the limiting testing that been done and that's all i need to know to say this ja is useless to incredibly situational.
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    While you can go on about solid numbers or parsing we're talking about how the duration is too short to have any use.

    We can all presume the DMG bonus is between 10-20% from all the limiting testing that been done and that's all i need to know to say this ja is useless to incredibly situational.
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    Derp. +1
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    From what I've seen so far, Scarlet Delirium's duration appears to be extended by the current duration of Souleater when you use it. When I used Souleater then Scarlet Delirium right after it lasted almost a second or so off 2 minutes. I tried waiting about 30 seconds into Souleater before using it, and it lasted around 1 minute 30 seconds. ^^

    Edit: Tried it the other way around, with Scarlet Delirium first and then Souleater and it lasted round 1 minute 30 as well... Certainly seems Souleater has some effect on the duration though. ^^; Also, it only appears to extend the duration while you're actually attacking stuff, they both wear at the same time when I try it while not attacking.
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    Last edited by Melraen; 09-01-2011 at 09:12 PM.

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    Here we go ....

    Once used it has 1 min to be activated (aka for you to take any DMG)
    Once you take DMG you gain the effect which could mean it's not based off total DMG but only the first hit you take
    (will try in abyssea)

    Maybe i presumed too early with this :P
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Here we go

    Before Crit 146, 136, 147 Infernal Scythe 531

    Took 1364 DMG (Meltdown)

    After Crit 168, 152, 130 Infernal Scythe 730

    Not really enough data from melee but u can kinda see the increase is there

    But with I.Scythe it increased DMG by 37% :O

    Seems you need to take all the DMG in one hit.

    Edit : Have a feeling Day may of proced against that

    H.slash 344 (904 taken (26% hp lost) ) H.slash 388 12% inc
    H.slash 344 (115 taken ) H.slash 347 1~% inc
    H.slash 344 (1298 taken (37% hp lost) ) H.slash 404 17% inc
    IScy 316 (1268 taken (28% hp lost) ) IScy 360 14% inc

    That'll do for me anyway seem to give a DMG boost based on % Hp lost (Go go Neither Void + SD?)
    Either way it seems usless still least we have a strong idea of how it works

    btw it is based of 1 hit this was easily tested by using SD then Taking DMG using Elemental WS taking more DMG and WSing agian the 2 WS were the same.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 09-02-2011 at 05:08 AM.
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Seems you need to take all the DMG in one hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    take all the DMG in one hit.
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    one hit.
    Don't think I like the sound of that.
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    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoLionheart View Post
    Don't think I like the sound of that.
    Its still shaping up to be the crappiest ability ever.
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    bully says hi! (lol)
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    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dart View Post
    bully says hi! (lol)

    At least bully actually works.

    Without having to kill yourself, to make the crap flow.
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