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  1. #181
    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    You said that "you can only gear for crits so much and no amount of gear in this entire game will even do what Raized ruins does" which in fact if you are 50 dex/agi for the 20% critical boost it's the same with a higher critical hit rate than RR. You also can have the 20% boost from blood rage which is only 10% less.

    I am just stating you are very much wrong in thinking you can't be at those levels outside abyssea. You fail to realize each mob will be different along with each mob having different attack variances that you need to determine when fighting. This isn't a end all be all situation merely me showing you that YES you can be at/close to the RR atma level.

    There are times you can't cap out criticals on HNM and you need to know their AGI. There are times you can sub in DA/TA rates over mods and up your DOT. There are times you can go full bore critical builds for higher damage and time efficiency.There are many times now of which most melee are capping attack so you don't need as much for minimum gains. I reiterate the fact that you must be a weak melee to not understand these systematic variances to know what gear changes are when and where. Figure that tidbit of information out and JUST MAYBE you stand a chance against a good melee.
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  2. #182
    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscoffey View Post
    most melee are capping attack
    you are f$@*ing batshit crazy
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    Last edited by Jar; 09-25-2011 at 01:22 PM.

  3. #183
    Player Cljader1's Avatar
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    This ability is crap it really is, situational at best...I have got a boost from it in woe but it still stupid as hell...it should just be a straight boost, really its only ok in low man groups when drks are allowed to engage...all in all it still remains a half as ability that require bs for benefits and other job dont require bs for there abilities to work
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  4. #184
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    I agree with Dart and Taint's stance. This ability is far more useful than we were giving it credit for pre-update. Ok, it's not game breakingly awesome but I still get use out of it every time it is up against anything moderately difficult.

    Few examples. We did Animated Scythe/Great Axe/Hammer/Shield and I was generally getting hit for anywhere between 700 and 1500 when it kicked in. The end result was 2.5-3.5k Catastrophes and a 2.1k crit on Animated Shield.

    Last night at VW on any mob that we could melee on SD would generally activate on anything from 500-1000+. And mobs where I died wasn't a result of being gung ho on DRK, it was a result of VW being ridiculously melee unfriendly as all melees were dropping dead.

    Even if you only get nailed by a 400-600 AoE, the boost still ends up being 12.5-20% boost which is hardly terrible.


    Yeah a boost would be nice but SD is nowhere near as bad as everyone was making out when you were saying delete it.
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    Last edited by Soidisant; 09-25-2011 at 05:51 PM.

  5. #185
    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cljader1 View Post
    This ability is crap it really is, situational at best...I have got a boost from it in woe but it still stupid as hell...it should just be a straight boost, really its only ok in low man groups when drks are allowed to engage...all in all it still remains a half as ability that require bs for benefits and other job dont require bs for there abilities to work
    This pretty much sums it up for the 1,000th time.

    you are f$@*ing batshit crazy
    If you had read the rest of that you maybe would have understood what i meant about other melee being close or capping their attack against mobs on the game. At this point "having capped attack or reaching" gives minimal gains compared to other equipment which can be used for a higher DOT rate. You haven't did anything other than insult me with your ignorance so far so keep on playing Blu and sucking at that too.
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  6. #186
    Player Jar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chriscoffey View Post
    keep on playing Blu and sucking at that too.
    so you boast about bullshit statements about WAR in a DRK forum and than pick fun at BLU...

    cute..

    also 17% crit rate is equal to a .17 boost to PDIF with out +2 feet on war meaning on any mob with 500 def you it is akin to adding about 90 attack that you could have had in gear with STR, atk, double attack, crit damage feet.

    there are a few pieces of crit gear that DO beat the attack/STR counterparts but overall stacking just crit rate is counterproductive.

    also dont BS back, math or stop talking.
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  7. #187
    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    Nothing I have posted is bullshit. You are just too naive and ignorant to acknowledge anything I say. This is the reason why you will never get better. Do you understand the concept of having closer attack to cap equating out to minimum gains in DOT/power vs other stats/mods? Why are you talking about warrior af2 feet when you originally said that no job could get the power of a RR atma. I apparently proved you could so you changed over to something entirely different. Do you also jump around tangent remarks to feel better about yourself being wrong?

    Stacking criticals in pratical USE does work (watch this quote here) DEPENDING ON THE MOB AND SITUATION (<---SEE WHAT I DID THERE READ THAT A FEW TIMES). I try to compare each piece to what I could be using vs other slots and adjust accordingly. Try researching how criticals work with dex/agi so you can understand this statement. Also try researching what critical tier levels are for X dex = Y critical hit rate as you add more. I hate ignorance and you my friend are the epitome of such a thing. I can only offer i kick your ass at a parse.

    Take the challenge and I move after I get my apocalypse complete or you shut up. Check YES ( ) or NO (). That is your choices in this matter. Much easier to see who is wrong than talking smack on this forum buddy. I think warrior would be a great job to use in this little matter. Einherjar would be a great event to go to for this. I would say dark knight but as I know you don't have apocalypse it would be futile. We are on the subject of criticals so much it would be a great "You are wrong" challenge. I am waiting for your reply and quite enthusiastic if you are willing to say YES to me.

    EDIT: I am 20 Jadeshells away as I don't have much time to play lately. Just so you know my status.
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    Last edited by Chriscoffey; 09-26-2011 at 02:58 AM.

  8. #188
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    something, something, monkey shit fight at the zoo, something.
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  9. #189
    Player Chriscoffey's Avatar
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    Dart you are so mean sir.. so. very .. mean to me... <-- /emo quote.
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    i just want you two to stop and lets go back to our emo JA discussion.
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