[dev1024] Job Adjustments - Scarlet Delirium

[Dart]

I had a 2k+ crit on animated bow with it. This is bad how?

[Urteil]

I had a 2k+ crit on animated bow with it. This is bad how?

Unpredictable, niche use, requires perfect timing in a niche situation. Only useful on targets that hit you for nearly all your hp.

Would be nice to have the ability just be 'good' without all the other situational BS tied to it.

Palisade isn't situational.

Spontaneity isn't.

Bully isn't.

Manafont isn't.

Unbridled Knowledge isn't.

You get the point.


A straight 30% damage boost to your next WS every 3 minutes would have been better. Make it take 15% of our max hp, I don't care.

Oh look another idea thats 5x better than Scarlet Delirium, wow this is hard.

[Chriscoffey]

Unpredictable, niche use, requires perfect timing in a niche situation. Only useful on targets that hit you for nearly all your hp.

Would be nice to have the ability just be 'good' without all the other situational BS tied to it.

Palisade isn't situational.

Spontaneity isn't.

Bully isn't.

Manafont isn't.

Unbridled Knowledge isn't.

You get the point.


A straight 30% damage boost to your next WS every 3 minutes would have been better. Make it take 15% of our max hp, I don't care.

Oh look another idea thats 5x better than Scarlet Delirium, wow this is hard.

It has became dark's concept now to just accept half thought out abilities to make the best of them because that is as good as it gets.

[Urteil]

It has became dark's concept now to just accept half thought out abilities to make the best of them because that is as good as it gets.

I don't accept that, so I haven't given up my right to express my negativity.

If people want to give up and accept a good dicking, great, but I won't placidly agree that its alright.


Ever.

[Dart]

assumption, the mother of all looking like a moron on forums. Who here said that we've accepted it? No one posting here has, what we're doing is making the best of what we have atm.

[Taint2]

I'm sold on it and been using it effectively since the update. I would like to see it on a 3min timer, miss timing it and then having to wait 5min is my biggest gripe.

[Chriscoffey]

assumption, the mother of all looking like a moron on forums. Who here said that we've accepted it? No one posting here has, what we're doing is making the best of what we have atm.

I didn't assume anything. I look at the posted rhetoric against SD and what i see is a handful of people complaining and the rest of you "accepting" it in a situational setting. That is not an assumption on my part but the conclusion of forum truth to this complaint we have with the ability currently. Does name calling make you feel more superior to anyone here? I wonder if you and Taint have no mathematical basis to stand on sometimes and make this shit up as you go.

[Jar]

Troll much buddy because unless you can argue anything against what I'm presenting you are just another troll clouded in your own hole in the ground. For the record you are in the minority in most of your views about dark just as a reminder. If you can't attack my stance at least you have the dignity to attack my paragraph structure. Well played ad hominem lad well played indeed.

and the Bull shit posts start ..................

you can only gear for crits so much and no amount of gear in this entire game will even do what Raized ruins does, and thats speaking for just RR one atma............. out of three....

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[Chriscoffey]

I am talking about outside abyssea which you knew already. I guess I need to baby quote myself so you can understand it better Jar. Just so you know YES you can get enough critical build to reach the rate of at least 1 of those atma and more. You can't very well get the combined rate of GH/RR.

Claymore grip 3%, zahak's mail 3%, 5% merits, Rancor collar 5%, hecatomb leggings 3%, dex/agi 20% (max), light earring 1% crit. That is 40% critical hit rate. RR is 30% and GH is 20%. Those are the most commonly used atma so i would guess that is a really close rate to the atma. You can add warrior's blood rage on top of that for another 20% and it's 60% outside abyssea.

I guess i am wrong in thinking that you can potentially be at an abyssea level critical hit rate for WS and another reason why people fail at research like yourself.

[Jar]

I am talking about outside abyssea which you knew already. I guess I need to baby quote myself so you can understand it better Jar. Just so you know YES you can get enough critical build to reach the rate of at least 1 of those atma and more. You can't very well get the combined rate of GH/RR.

Claymore grip 3%, zahak's mail 3%, 5% merits, Rancor collar 5%, hecatomb leggings 3%, dex/agi 20% (max), light earring 1% crit. That is 40% critical hit rate. RR is 30% and GH is 20%. Those are the most commonly used atma so i would guess that is a really close rate to the atma. You can add warrior's blood rage on top of that for another 20% and it's 60% outside abyssea.

I guess i am wrong in thinking that you can potentially be at an abyssea level critical hit rate for WS and another reason why people fail at research like yourself.

RR gives DEx and Crit damage also witch is no made up for in that set.

hows your attack in all that gear bro and how about WSC?

there is alot more than just crit rate to stuff gimme a sec to math out this bullshit ill edit it in in a min:



( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * PDIF
D = 144 (95 empy for lulz)
fSTR = (144/9)+8 for cap str- monster vit formula ((your STR - monster VIT)+4)/4 109 vit because you have 100+ str
mob has vit to match
WSC = (STR)*0.6
fTP=2.0 first hit +1.0 for 2nd+ 1.0 for doubles(+0.1 for belt/gorget)
PDIF is attack/monster DEF in this we will asume over 800 def
because even EXP mobs in abyssea have 600ish
some VW mobs have more than 800 much more even this is also where crits
come in. cap for Pdif is 2.25 for 2handers and crits add +1 to that meaning 3.25

now math time.
ukko's has a base crit rate of what 30-40%? i heard it caps crit with just RR meaning like 40ish ill opt it to 30% tho to help this crit build guys case.

set at HERE
((144 + (((103 + 47 - 108)+4)/4)=|24(caped)|)+((103+47)*0.6)= |90|)
Base damage in your set is 258
258*(2+1.27)= 843.66
now is the fun part.

you have 17% in gear lets just say your capping Ddex 37%+30%+5%=72%
also anything worthwhile will be 5 levels higher than you(most are more) 5*0.05= Cratio
Attack = 8 + Skill + trait +Floor(STR*0.75)+food+berserk
at 95 A+ is like 400skill so Attack= (8+400+20+Floor(150*.75)+150)*1.25 = 695
695/800=0.86875
dia and angon now 800*.70
695/560=1.2410714285714285714285714285714
now cratio reduces pdif by 25% 5*.05
1.24*.75=0.93
now adding in avrg crit pdif boost
0.93+.72=1.65

1407.45 is overall damage. ill do str/attack build tomorrow got a skill up pt invite