Torcleaver numbers.

[Usukane]

You don't say! Gee. =/ Can't believe I get such crap answers.

[Jar]

You don't say! Gee. =/ Can't believe I get such crap answers.

Try asking for specifics bro

besides everything you need to know you can learn on the wiki about its damage.... not like its hard to ballpark dmg after seeing all the numbers..

[vedder]

its not an easy weapon skill to gear for since u really need attack (cap ur attack vs mob def drk can do this but its not lulzeasy) need str (fstr which will require tinkering from mob to mob) and vit the actual wsc, trying to mush vit into a gearset for dmg over str(once capped) and maintain proper hitbuild/rebuild is the tricky part, dart summed it up pretty good though. few pieces of note are twilight head/ares body/snowbelt/snowgorget/bale+2legs/atheling/bale earring(brutal?)/moonshade<TP BONUS>/bibiki seashell(bombcore/bomblet)

i left out feet rings an hands cus im still really up in the air about those slots yet
hands: ares,bale+2,heafoc,lolperle,augmented-versa( <_< hate these atm not dropping) are a few choices im sure eveyone has a preference
feet:bale+2, ares, jingang(sp?), ryugo, onyx?
rings: lotsa choices between vit str attack

requires mucho tinkering an also i dont quite have torcleaver yet, im 36/50 atm on ciren but my ls rocks and its gonna be tonites event! w00t

[Dart]

cap fstr/attack/ then worry about vit mod.

[Fyreus]

Necro bump.

I haven't been able to understand how much of a str/att boost that gorgets give during WS (my rng has my light gorgets atm) so would anyone be able to compare warwolf/bale neck to light gorget/belt or point me in the correct direction? adding 0.1 to 1.0 of an ftp for 1.1 doesn't really tell me much atm.

[Jar]

Necro bump.

I haven't been able to understand how much of a str/att boost that gorgets give during WS (my rng has my light gorgets atm) so would anyone be able to compare warwolf/bale neck to light gorget/belt or point me in the correct direction? adding 0.1 to 1.0 of an ftp for 1.1 doesn't really tell me much atm.

learn what fTP is than ..

Gorgets add 0.1 fTP to the FIRST hit of every weaponskill as well ass +10 acc for all hits.
they add NO STR OR ATT
they are unrivaled for single hit weaponskills because fTP is the base damage of your weaponskill
for multi hit 4~ for the most part there are better pieces.

for torcleaver gorget/belt is the best foreverandeveranever (well maybe not with the +9 VIT neck but meh that has too be close anyway lol..)

[Dart]

honestly when i /sam anymore and go batshit crazy with torcleaver, there are only two jobs that out hate me. ukon war and vereth mnk. The raw total dmg is that significant (a really skilled/spellcast using drg is about even)

thought i am tempted to try /thf but i just know that i'm going to pull massive hate and just be a sponge, at least with /sam I have some defensive capabilities -_-

[Dart]

as for the gorget issue. Generally if you use them universally for your ws sets you will not be gimp at all. They are very solid and as jar mentioned, you need very specific situations for them to be tied with or out done period. The only job that I consider not using them on is mnk since I have victory smite now.

[Fyreus]

Maybe i should have reworded before i left the post. I know what fTP is but trying to find a damage comparison that can be broken down into str/att/acc was what i was inquiring about. Basically 14str/5vit/8att/8acc vs what i assume is 20 WSacc and [???]'s str/att equivalency.

I have all the information except for things aren't easily understood like trying to find a lv100 beetle's vit. It looks like 92+92+56+46 and if i were to take that as mob vit when finding fSTR then it couldn't look right compared to my drk's current 92+70str.

[Jar]

Maybe i should have reworded before i left the post. I know what fTP is but trying to find a damage comparison that can be broken down into str/att/acc was what i was inquiring about. Basically 14str/5vit/8att/8acc vs what i assume is 20 WSacc and [???]'s str/att equivalency.

I have all the information except for things aren't easily understood like trying to find a lv100 beetle's vit. It looks like 92+92+56+46 and if i were to take that as mob vit when finding fSTR then it couldn't look right compared to my drk's current 92+70str.

yeah not all math is addition there is no "Always true" value that is a str/vit/att equivalent to the fTP value.

if this is about torcleaver than the gorget wins hands down
if the weaponskill hits more than one time the STR helps on each hit while the gorget only helps the first.

Gorgets add base damage and you dont seem to know how big that is but because its Multiplied by the other values in the weaponskill damage formula. (Damage = WD * PDIF = ( D + fSTR + WSC) * fTP * PDIF) it is a major thing.