honestly when i /sam anymore and go batshit crazy with torcleaver, there are only two jobs that out hate me. ukon war and vereth mnk. The raw total dmg is that significant (a really skilled/spellcast using drg is about even)

thought i am tempted to try /thf but i just know that i'm going to pull massive hate and just be a sponge, at least with /sam I have some defensive capabilities -_-