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    Player RAIST's Avatar
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    hmmm....never had any issues getting CP in the past. Maybe it's because I'm from Bastok, who rarely ever owned the zones I was xp'ing in....who knows. I would expect it comes in fairly steady now if you are doing xp parties now that the rate is doubled since it is bound to the xp you earn--if you're soloing or low-manning and have a low xp/hr rate, I guess that is what holds people back now though.

    Conquest Rankings might be something for you to look into for now. If your camp is owned by your nation, you get no bonus to CP per kill, so you are only getting 10% of your XP back as CP (20 CP from an EM). But if it's not owned by your nation, you get a 1.5x multiplier (30 CP from an EM). So, the trick is to be in a region not controlled by your nation, keeping Signet up, and slaughtering EM+ mobs for chain 5's to keep the CP flowing I guess with the way things currently stand...the catch is getting together the traditional xp party these days. /meh

    There are also some Moghancement: Conquest furniture pieces that can raise it a 1.6 multiplier in an uncontrolled region if you have them (32 CP from an EM). Every little bit helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    hmmm....never had any issues getting CP in the past. Maybe it's because I'm from Bastok, who rarely ever owned the zones I was xp'ing in....who knows. I would expect it comes in fairly steady now if you are doing xp parties now that the rate is doubled since it is bound to the xp you earn--if you're soloing or low-manning and have a low xp/hr rate, I guess that is what holds people back now though.
    Compare CP to IS and AN. You can get thousands of IS and AN easily by doing beseiged and campaign, respectively, and can do the secondary elements to campaign (Rescuing prisoners, shattering mirrors, reclaiming the candescence...) for thousands more now. There's also campaign ops for some quick and dirty allied notes. But nothing of the sort really exists for CP: Both Expeditionary Force and Garrison are level capped, and with few reasons to do them. And those are the only sources of CP outside of experience. Really, CP is more "Expensive" than the other two by a longshot.
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    I won't lie, judging by the title of thread, I was expecting something else entirely...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh View Post
    I won't lie, judging by the title of thread, I was expecting someone else entirely...
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    Iunno, I only have like 1 job at 60, 2 jobs at 30, and one at 50. I've gotten maybe 20 levels of my lv60 in book burns.. and i have 70k cp...
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    70k is not a lot. If you'd been getting that xp in campaign, you'd be closer to 700k
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    What would you buy with 700k CP?
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    Same kind of crap you buy with IS and AN. There's all sorts of lower level gear, there's aketons, signet staves, XP ring recharges, scrolls of instant warp and instant retrace... not to mention if you're a title nut, buying an item from each rank for each nation gives a title. That's 231k for each nation, 693k total. So I can think of something to buy with about 700k CP :P
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    You can only get AN from event driven content though. IS is pretty slow from xp, with few exceptions to enhance it, otherwise it is primarily earned from event driven content as well. Also, both IS/AN are really only reasonably obtainable once you reach a certain point in the game (level, reputation, etc)--barring you sneaking in and running campaign ops in the past I guess, but that will be restricted to your 7 credits per conquest tally.

    Not saying I'm against them making CP obtainable via event driven content as well. Just stating that it normally would be easily obtainable. CP is earned from day one, at level 1--and has a fairly simple mechanic for increasing that reward by 50% as well. The problem is, people aren't earning XP like they used to, and are thus not earnign CP like they used to either. "Old-school" leveling would easily grant you anywhere from 25k-35k CP before you got to TAU areas (if not more) on just one job--simply from joining normal XP parties along the way. People simply aren't taking this route these days with all the other options--FOV/GOV/Abyssea, etc. Instead, they are getting massive chunks of XP and essentially skipping levels, and missing out on the CP they would otherwise have gotten simply from killing mobs for xp and not as a bonus reward for completing pages and such.

    Until they do something about it, players need to be mindful of just how to optimize their CP gain--that means keeping Signet up and fighting in Conquest areas not under your nation's control, geting as much raw xp/kill as they can along the way (the amount before xp band is applied).
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    I thought the increased exp from bands also lead to higher cp gain?

    Fun fact though, a normal oldschool party with decent gear and competent players could get 30k+ now in conquest areas. I've trioed for like 20k with cor + war + drg before grounds tomes were implemented, and not using books or exp rings. Of course, it requires that there are suitable mobs to go after for your level range. This isn't always the case, but at least in the level ranges of 1-50, I know this to be possible, so find a sync target and get all the CP you need!
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