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    Player Areal's Avatar
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    enhancing magic effect caps

    many enhancing magic spells cap off at a certain point currently the only reason we have to even worry about our enhancing magic is for the new "gain" spells. examples

    Tier one weapon enhancement magic stops getting higher at 21 without day or weather, at around 310 enhancing magic skill

    Stoneskin's effect stops at 350 (without gear mods)

    I would like to see the caps at least made possible to break so these spells dont slowly become useless
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    ^^ as long as is a bonus and not a nerf i support this.
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    pretty much it's making it so enhancing magic becomes much more important to skill up even in later levels and old spells will still remain somewhat useful
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    Umm what....

    Awhile back they raised the 300 point hard cap on most abilities spells, enhancing wasn't the only thing capped so was Dark magic.

    Currently my 420+ enhancing magic build has a 26 damage Enspell 1, its not capped anymore.
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    So what about non-enspell spells?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    So what about non-enspell spells?
    Phalanx is uncapped now too iirc. Stoneskin is still capped.
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    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirage View Post
    So what about non-enspell spells?
    Phalanx, Barspells, Drain, Aspir and Absorb spells are now uncapped, as far as we know.
    Stoneskin is capped, but that is more a function of MND then enhancing magic.

    Gain-Stat spells are not capped.
    @300 Skill is +5, then every 10 enhancing above that is another +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saevel View Post
    Phalanx, Barspells, Drain, Aspir and Absorb spells are now uncapped, .

    You have a link to any drain/aspir testing? Because as far as I can remember no one has really tested it thoroughly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I want to say that there's a middle ground here but this isn't really middle ground. A lot of old systems were shit. Some new systems aren't much better. What's in the middle of shit and shit? More Shit. So no, I don't want a middle ground. I want something good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landsoul View Post
    >Twilight Scythe is overpowered that's why we're nerfing it
    >Weapons with double damage compared to relic

    LOGIC.
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    \m/ (*.*) \m/ "THIS SOLUTION IS THE MOST METAL!" \m/ (*.*) \m/

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    Hmm thats odd cause I've gained like my 30 enspell skill ups since i hit 21 (on specific mobs i will hit for 25 enspells but most seem to only take 21) and my enhancing magic set gives +35 skill total iirc but it makes no difference on my enspells
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raksha View Post
    You have a link to any drain/aspir testing? Because as far as I can remember no one has really tested it thoroughly.

    Dig around on BG somewhere, not going to find the link since it's most likely buried in there somewhere. For a long time there was a suspicion that drain / aspir capped @300 skill for potency, although accuracy would still go up. Same with BLU's MP Drainkiss / Digestion and such.

    Then SE came along with an update that listed them uncapping Enhancing Magic and Dark magic effects, Drain and Aspir were specifically listed by name.
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