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[Mirage]

Why, do you disagree with mathematics?

I'm sorry, but no matter how much you disagree with 2+2 equaling 4, it will always equal 4.

[Vortex]

Why, do you disagree with mathematics?

I'm sorry, but no matter how much you disagree with 2+2 equaling 4, it will always equal 4.

Sigh. Yes, because saying Regen is not useless is disagreeing with mathmatics. why do i even bother? the math he posted was irrelvent and had NOTHING to do with my main point i was making. but reading comphrehesion is pretty hard as well,

its more like you telling me 2+2 equals 4 and i'm talking about biology.

[Aleste]

Sigh. Yes, because saying Regen is not useless is disagreeing with mathmatics. why do i even bother? the math he posted was irrelvent and had NOTHING to do with my main point i was making. but reading comphrehesion is pretty hard as well,

I really hate writing long posts, so I'll be blunt.

Cure 3, and cure 5 in misery are vastly more efficient than Regen 4 WITH MERITS. In solace cure 3 is 1.5 TIMES more efficient, and cure 5 is TWICE as efficient. This is NOT accounting for the time taken to cast the appropriate spells, and the decreased time you'll spend mid-cast where you cannot quickly react to any changes in the situation.

Regen spells only ever had the efficiency going for them at the time of release. At the time they were the most efficient healing spell around, however its efficiency has barely increased with the release of Orison Mitts +2. However, with the release of Afflatus Solace, Orison Pantaloons +2 and Orison Bliaud +2 this has changed. Hell, there have been more cure cast time- gear released with each passing version, pushing us towards better, quicker and more efficient cure spells.

Over curing has become a bit of a null issue in correct gear, even if you over cure by ~50% with cure 5 in the above mathematics you will STILL end up with a higher efficiency than Regen 4 (with gear AND merits).

Don't get me wrong, Regen spells DO have a very VERY rare situational use and the only MP EFFICIENT time to cast it is when you're stark naked or when you have (specific pieces of) gear stripped from you.

i'll have to accept that WHM is to hard for certain people. and these forums proved it.

Yes, you are a lost cause... almost every poster in this thread seems to have a better understanding of white mage than you.

[Mirage]

Sigh. Yes, because saying Regen is not useless is disagreeing with mathmatics. why do i even bother? the math he posted was irrelvent and had NOTHING to do with my main point i was making. but reading comphrehesion is pretty hard as well,

its more like you telling me 2+2 equals 4 and i'm talking about biology.

Well then, when is regen useful? When you want a fast cure? No. When you want an MP efficient cure? Not really, with decent gear, it is less MP efficient. When you want to be able to quickly react to changing situations? No, regen has a much longer cast time than Cure spells, even before you add gear/merits that reduce cure casting time

Please explain in a convincing manner when it is that regen is a better choice, because you haven't properly done so yet.

If all the effects of the Regen spells are done better with other spells, then there is no word that fits regen better than "useless".

If perhaps Regen spells were nearly instant cast, with a very short recast timer, or at least a *single* property that was better than the cure spells, then it could be situationally useful again.

[SpankWustler]

Sigh. Yes, because saying Regen is not useless is disagreeing with mathmatics. why do i even bother? the math he posted was irrelvent and had NOTHING to do with my main point i was making. but reading comphrehesion is pretty hard as well,

its more like you telling me 2+2 equals 4 and i'm talking about biology.

Since you seem to be incapable of expressing yourself through any method of communication other than juvenile insults, I'll just guess at the idea you so desperately want to express through adult language.

Are you trying to say, "Regen is useful when you really, really want everyone's HP to stay white without casting a lot of Cure spells" ?

[Vortex]

my reading comphrensible is very horrible and i did not read or understand what you were talking about i will make up some stupid, retarded post because in order to make my self feel better and keep swaying this topic in a direction to insult you as much as i can with false accusations and crap i make up, hopefully this following sentence will make me look even more childish: Since you seem to be incapable of expressing yourself through any method of communication other than juvenile insults, I'll just guess at the idea you so desperately want to express through adult language.

Are you trying to say, "Regen is useful when you really, really want everyone's HP to stay white without casting a lot of Cure spells" ?

Fixed for accuracy, i am done with this discussion, and your half-brained, dumb post just proved further that people like you just jump to and belive whatever you want to, i could explain it, but then i will get another "since you are acting the way i am" post so forget it, i don't know where this topic will go now but this matter is considerd closed. cast whatever you want, do whatever you want. don't care.

On topic.

Seems we would need a different approchwith cumulitive healing sort of like helix spells with large bursts of Hp recovery but with longer ticks. since regen is little to difficult, oh excuse me "Not effective" for certain people i guess it is time for something new.