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    I have a better idea for Rosina; make your own guide and make it easier to understand than mine. Or just leave my guide alone, it seems to be doing fine. Maybe you can actually read through my guide and try some of the stuff I mention if you wish. It might help you.
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    oi vey
    Zet please read what I wrote then the replies that followed. If it isn';t adding up people are trying to make it seem i'm here for attention not help you with a better lay out. I meant no disrespect. But the way it is set up for some can be hard to read. More or less in the complexity of how you set up the guide. Am I assuming people are attacking me. No, they infact are it is there in black in white. I'm not trying to get your thread locked, but I never said an insult. The only insults have been directed to me. Like the comment to ignore me when I did nothing wrong. Now i'm getting pointed the blame for something I never did. The only ones who gonna get your thread locked are people who trying to call me out on stupid things. The guiode is good. The lay out is an eye sore coming from being on the ps3. Like those x's and o's what purpose do those serve? Why do they have to be all black? (sorry for the harsh critisim, nothing personal) But w/e was only trying to help ya.
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  3. #83
    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    Alt OOOXXXXXXX
    Similar to this picture, your main set macros will be easily accessed as the Os.
    How is this hard to understand?

    The X and O are where the macros that are mentioned can be placed. Please read over it again, I've changed it to make it even more simple.

    Also if you have a PC, try reading it on there.

    (and your criticism isn't harsh, but it seems like you haven't read it fully to make those comments)
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    Last edited by Zatias; 08-26-2011 at 09:23 AM.

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    console, keyboard or <gasp> combination of the two is irrelevant. The point is you are grouping macros together that you would use together. Hit a couple of buttons close together to gear for a situation or specific action--don't go 1, 2, 9 for a WS, but go 7, 8, 9--then 1,2,3 is just a quick step away (go right on a controller and it wraps you back to the other side) to regear for TP gain.
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    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    console, keyboard or <gasp> combination of the two is irrelevant. The point is you are grouping macros together that you would use together. Hit a couple of buttons close together to gear for a situation or specific action--don't go 1, 2, 9 for a WS, but go 7, 8, 9--then 1,2,3 is just a quick step away (go right on a controller and it wraps you back to the other side) to regear for TP gain.
    Yay, someone actually read the guide XD
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    I'm not gonna start a s***storm and get your thread locked Zatias.

    Thank you for posting it, it has great information and I think it is beautifully laid out. I can follow it very simply and it isn't overly cluttered. It also helps new players and people trying to improve themselves do so. I can follow it on my pc and phone AND PS3 with no problems. ^^ Also, a lot of the other info at the beginning of the guide from most other players is very helpful and clear as well. And I think the title is clever, not the same boring thing you see all the time, it made me laugh and actually click on the thread in the first place.

    In other words keep up the good work! ^^b
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    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    Thank you ^^;

    Also gonna let this sit for a while, time to actually play the game!
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    umm be cause I read it, it was a good read. I can post that the guide layout is hard to read (because it is) And no some links on the ps3 do not work. I've tried meny ways. I'm pointing out a few things that might confuse people. And the only ones making it about me are you guys. I'm only replying to ya out of politeness. I've been talking about the guide and being on topic. I'm only trying to give my opinion on the lay out so anyone can find it easy to read and not like a VCR manuel. And not just easy to read but pleasing to the eyes as well. The macro info is lost in all of that stuff. And a person shouldn't have to click spoilers to understand how to set up their macros. Like the comands. Maybe you should list the macro commands and set up. Some people do not know those very well. And explain what each one does. Then list examples of what you can do with those macros.

    Then if you have fraps or something record you playing the game (aka record ffxi) to show people how they work.
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    @Rosina - You don't need fraps to show the effects of gear swapping. Simple math puts it out. I'm not Byrth (I'd drag him in here for mathing if I felt up to it) and I'm not a main DNC, but I can do a few simple calculations for proof:

    Curing Waltz V formula: Amount Healed = floor(((Target's VIT+Caster's CHR)*1.25) + 600,1)

    Now I'm just going to toss together a random TP set that has capped haste. Again, not a DNC so feel free to correct me if there's a better set, but this is merely for example's sake:

    Kila+2/Twilight Knife/Nothing/Charis Feather
    Charis Tiara+2/Charis Necklace/Suppanomimi/Brutal Earring
    Charis Casaque +2/Dusk Gloves +1/Raja's Ring/Epona's Ring
    Atheling Mantle/Twilight Belt/Charis Tights+2/Charis Toeshoes+2

    This is a 26% Haste set, just using it as an example.

    Let's use my Hume CHR and VIT, I'm going to ballpark because as I said I'm not a DNC main and don't have DNC90. So let's say 73 VIT, 81 CHR. Prolly off but hey, examples and whatnot. Gear also provides +20 CHR and +0 VIT, so that put our numbers at 73 VIT, 101 CHR.

    Now, with the Curing Waltz V Forumla, using it on yourself, you calculate it as such: Amount Healed = floor(((73+101)*1.25) + 600,1). Your final total ends up as 817.5 HP, or 817 healed due to rounding down.

    Let's toss on some gear that enhances Waltzes, shall we? Toss on Dancer's Casaque and Etoile Tiara instead of the current body/head pieces. This brings our CHR+ down to +8, so our new CHR is 89. And let's check the formula again, with a 15% bonus to Waltz Potency:

    Curing Waltz V formula: Amount Healed = floor(((73+89)*1.25) + 600,1) which goes to 802.5, and then you multiply by 1.15 to get 922.875, or 922 HP restored.

    922 - 817 is a 105 HP difference in Waltz Potency. That is a 12.85% increase in potency from the original; gear swaps are USEFUL. Curing that extra 105 HP can save your life in a number of situations. This is just the proof that gear swaps are good, and how they help.

    Feel free to tie this into your front post as an example if you'd like, OP, but I don't expect it. :P
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    @ ken, not everyone undestands the math you just did and visuals help better. Like I said ACTIONS speak louder then Words.
    pretty much all in all prove it.

    Pretty much words on the internet are meaningless. What is the likely hood that your math is off, or what you wrote is a lie? Or that this guide is a lie? So A person is suppose to just take your word for it?

    People are smarter then that. Then enjoy proof. And videos of the game are great proof of that.
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    Last edited by Rosina; 08-26-2011 at 09:37 AM.

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