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Calm down, Tamoa, you're going to get out the tonberry knife soon. D:
That aside, I agree with her, Rosina. I've tried to remain polite throughout this thread, pointing out the usefulness of gear swapping and its effects. No one is asking you to gear swap. And as Tamoa said, why are you even bothering to post in this thread if you aren't going to offer the same advice or even use the advice in the first place? All you did was come in here and start a war. Again. We're not looking for a critique on this guide's layout--you're the only one who seems to have a problem with it anyway--and that's all you're offering. If you're not going to help with the topic at hand, kindly leave and let us continue this thread so that we can help educate people who actually want to play the game well versus casually. There's nothing wrong with a casual playstyle, but there are those who want to take the next step. This guide is for them.
I numbered them for easier reference in my reply.
(1) You're being a hypocrite here. By saying "Do it right" you're assuming that you are doing it right, and as a result are showing us a condescending attitude. If you're going to try and offer etiquette advice, try learning some yourself. A simple "a suggestion to help improve communication between players would be to watch out for a condescending attitude, intentional or not." sounds a lot nicer than "You're doing it wrong, do better."
(2) Advice you could take as well. I'm not saying I haven't gone without tossing out an insult offhandedly when I'm upset or annoyed; we're human, we make mistakes. I'm no exception to that rule.
(3) But it's not an assumption. If you cannot play your class properly (for example, a dancer healing at 80% efficiency, or a BLM whose nukes/enfeebles are always resisted because you don't want to change staves) then you are considered to be useless when it comes to a group dynamic. When you play with a group, you either meet that group's expectations or you leave and find a group who will Apoc-zombie and throw bodies at something until it rages or is taken. Making a gear swap macro is so simplistic as well, as this guide demonstrates; with three button presses, THREE at most, you can swap your entire gearset. Heck, you might not even need to swap all 16 pieces, just a few here and there for a weapon skill set, for example, or for a JA. By being unable to type a single line of code as demonstrated here "/equip head headitemhere" that proves a lot of laziness. If you're not bothering to put forth the effort to play your job well, then that is indeed lazy. No one's asking you to be the best and know every little detail, but we'd like to see people putting some effort in too or we're going to find someone else.
Only one thing to comment on in this post. I personally do not care how you play. You are on a different server than me, I will never interact with you. This has no effect on my gameplay whatsoever. Therefore, I truly do not care. But what I do care about is your influence on people who may see your posts and be from my server, and take them to heart. Because I may or may not have to cooperate with these players at some point, and if they have no modicum of skill and intellect because of what they read from you, then I have to suffer through dealing with them in the party and having them drag the rest of us down. Kicking out one bad player to improve the rest of the party's chances is much better than keeping him and making everyone else suffer, and as a result, your "teachings" here are going to get people kicked for poor skill and unwillingness to learn.
My suggestion is that if you want to be a unique snowflake, have at it. I encourage a person to enjoy the game. However, I also kindly ask a person being said snowflake to not join any of my parties lest it cause failures and wasted time. After all, to me, enjoying the game is doing well on beating monsters, and getting good gear, and being good comparative to others. Maybe it's not your style of enjoyment, but you're infringing on my style of enjoyment just as much as you claim I am yours.
[Kensagaku - formerly of Kujata] - http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Valefor/Kensagaku
Rosina, do you even have a 90 job?
I only ask because, your profile states 3 jobs that are 30 or under.
I could easily understand why you think gear swapping isn't important if you're not even high enough to have gear options.
For DD jobs especially, there's hardly any reason to swap for a good while.
If you actually do have a 90, your posts are that much more worthy of being trolled upon.
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This game is not new. The math has been done. Gear-swapping is factored in to the challenge aspect of the game; the difficulty of certain parts of the game assume you to be swapping to certain gear for the situation.
You can refuse to play that way all you want, but really, you're not the only one playing, unless you solo 100% of the time. In a group situation, you are bringing the entire group down. You cannot make any claim to be "working as hard as I can" if you refuse to use even the simplest tools SE provides you with macros. These are not some third-party cheat or hack, these are tool built into the infrastructure of FFXI itself. It's like saying "I refuse to use the Auction House! I only buy gear from NPC shops!"
Greetings All,
Regrettably, we have had to moderate this thread. While general disagreements about macros and gear swapping are bound to happen, please remain on topic and refrain from insulting others. This thread will remain open as long as the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines are being followed. Any disagreements you have had with others earlier in this thread, please consider that the past, and move on. Thank you for your understanding.
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