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  1. #121
    Player Rayik's Avatar
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    This game is not new. The math has been done. Gear-swapping is factored in to the challenge aspect of the game; the difficulty of certain parts of the game assume you to be swapping to certain gear for the situation.

    You can refuse to play that way all you want, but really, you're not the only one playing, unless you solo 100% of the time. In a group situation, you are bringing the entire group down. You cannot make any claim to be "working as hard as I can" if you refuse to use even the simplest tools SE provides you with macros. These are not some third-party cheat or hack, these are tool built into the infrastructure of FFXI itself. It's like saying "I refuse to use the Auction House! I only buy gear from NPC shops!"
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  3. #122
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    Greetings All,

    Regrettably, we have had to moderate this thread. While general disagreements about macros and gear swapping are bound to happen, please remain on topic and refrain from insulting others. This thread will remain open as long as the FINAL FANTASY XI FORUM Guidelines are being followed. Any disagreements you have had with others earlier in this thread, please consider that the past, and move on. Thank you for your understanding.

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    Last edited by Bublex; 08-27-2011 at 06:14 AM.

  4. #123
    Player Kensagaku's Avatar
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    It lives! Thanks mister GM dude for bringing it back, this was a really useful and informative thread that was starting to get off-track. D:

    So yes, let's not talk about layout, and let's not fight. Clean slate guys, m'kay? Let's just compare macro ideas and try to help those who want to use them. :3
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    [Kensagaku - formerly of Kujata] - http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Valefor/Kensagaku

  5. #124
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    Excuse me, GM Bublex, but wouldn't it have been a lot easier just to issue bans to the people causing all the trouble? Actually, the ONE person instigating everything? This helpful thread, and many other threads, wouldn't have been ruined if that person was issued the banning they deserve a long time ago. That user has done this time and again, to thread after thread, and refuses to stop. A permanent ban is long overdue.

    When a MAJORITY of people in this thread are trying to keep things productive and ONE person keeps disrupting that, it's pretty obvious what the solution should be.
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  6. #125
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    Sure is backseat moderating up in this thread.
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  7. #126
    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    How do I lock my other thread now that this one is back? D;

    I want my ability to lock my threads back!

    No really I rather not have that back, it causes more harm than good.
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  8. #127
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    Wanted to pull this post in from the other version of the guide, that way it shows in both threads, since we don't yet know which one is going to become the more active version:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post180564
    Quote Originally Posted by Cymmina View Post
    Did you know that you can use <st> type targeting as a variable length pause? The macro pauses execution until you've selected a target for the 2nd line of this macro, allowing your party enough time to get in range of your buffs:

    /p {Gather Together.} {Protectra} & {Shellra}
    /target <st>
    /ma "Shellra V" <me>
    /wait 8
    /ma "Protectra IV" <me>
    Byrth (sp?) had also posted some interesting BLM stuff with some good ideas in another thread that seems to have gone off the radar for now. Guessing that thread is down for moderation like this one was. Maybe we can get those macro samples pulled in as well if it shows back up. Will keep an eye out for it to shows up again.
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  9. #128
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    To reply to someones post. Kekkaishi my original character, I deleted when I was forced to quit over money issues and didn't think I'd play ffxi again. Was dnc level 90 and a 80-85 monk. Due to the transfers I can't reactivate them But once they are done I was thinking of getting them back. I also retrieved my old macro data and found something interesting XD.... ya. yall gonna laugh. Apparently (and I forgot this due to a 6 mnth game absence) I did MINOR gear swaping. But only on mnk and sch. More or less used genbu's kabuto for chakra. And had different sets of gear for dark arts (blm mode) and light arts (whm mode) My dnc never had any gear swapping though. Which was the last job I played. I also did most everything with my boyfriend, so he didn't care if I gear swapped or not. Nor have I been asked in various events. (missions etc) (this was just to reply a persons post nothing more )

    I think I dislik gear swapping for the hassle I had with sch. Having to remake macros constently got annoying for me.
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  10. #129
    Player Rosina's Avatar
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    pretty much mine was

    ::darkarts::
    change body
    head
    legs
    back
    r1
    r2

    same for light arts.
    I also changed my macro book sets.
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  11. #130
    Player Zatias's Avatar
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    Would like to inform everyone that the guide is approaching its maximum character limit. I should have reserved a post under it for more additions; I didn't expect it to be this big. inb4thatswatshesaid

    I have a feeling people needing macro advice will read through the thread, so this isn't a huge deal. I just wanted to tell some of you why all of your good ideas aren't in the OP. ^^
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