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    Very nice guide, thank you for taking the time to write it up OP.

    Controller vs keyboard.....Controller for me since I have used one for over 5 years, but if you're used to a keyboard then fine. It's all up to your personal preference.
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    Proud to be "Old School" and to have completed CoP pre-nerf

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    Thanks everyone for the input ^^

    And who found the guide difficult to read? I designed it specifically so it was easier to understand. >.> Going to add in some people's ideas now.
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    It's an nice template to start with, and customize as you see fit. Just remember you have multiple banks you can flip to easily with a quick key combo, so you can duplicate key macros to the same locations and have one section for the situational stuff. This can allow you a little more flexibility in the template (ie, not having to have the evasion macros in your main bank if you aren't relying on them much, and want to put something else in those spots and put the evasion macros in an alternate bank).

    But for initial set up, it's a really nice baseline to work off of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAIST View Post
    But for initial set up, it's a really nice baseline to work off of.
    That's the point ^^
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    Yeah... wish I had thought of making a default template like that years ago. Some of my jobs are completely flip flopped from eachother....can't be arsed to get them lined up. Takes me a few minutes when I job change sometimes to get re-oriented. I have a seperate bank for each weapon class on some jobs...I'll be damned if I'm gonna rearrange every one of WAR or NIN's weapon banks... lol. Maybe one day if I'm REALLY bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosina View Post
    I would suggest to clean the guide up a bit to make it easier to understand and remove the spoilers. Also had videos to SHOW gear swaping AND that other macro targeting s9o those can see it actually works. Actions speak louder then words.
    The "spoiler" button is to make the guide take up less space. If you want to see the macro, click the button >.> It's not hard. (Also goes with the theme of macro clicking ;P)

    I don't have the time to buy a capture card or record myself clicking buttons. This would also defeat the purpose of the guide, I am attempting to help people make their own basic macrosets to try themselves. In that sense, it would be your action speaking louder than what I've written here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    I'd like to point out that you can also "stack" macros so they're all layered on one position in the macro palette by making use of the follow syntax: /macro set #

    This lets you jump around to different lines in your macro book, so you can have a setup that looks like this:

    CTRL 1 (first line in macro book):
    /equip stuff x5
    /macro set 2
    CTRL 1 (second line in macro book):
    /equip stuff x5
    /macro set 3
    CTRL 1 (third line in macro book):
    /equip stuff x5
    /Ja MurderTown <t>

    This lets you swap out a full 15 pieces of gear and execute your spell, Weaponskill or whatever with 3 keystrokes. If you run out of space in a single macro book you can switch between them using: /macro book #

    Happy macro building.
    Cool, I was aware of that feature but never thought to actually set up macros in that way.


    I'd like to add my own tip as well for my fellow summoners.


    Rather than macro individual pacts, it's better to group them all.

    For example, I have "Celestial" for CTRL 1 on my 2nd pallete with the following.

    /pet "Predator Claws" <t>
    /pet "Rush" <t>
    /pet "Chaotic Strike" <t>"


    and so on, and I end it with a /recast just in case I miss the little blue numbers telling me how much time is left. Same deal goes for the Terrestial Avatars, Healing Wards, Defensive/Offensive Wards blah blah blah.

    It's also very handy for some jobs to make 1 or more /recast macros (unless you use windower - I consider it cheating personally but w/e, not here to judge people) that does nothing but /recast for all your relevant JAs.


    For example on my main SAM I would have:

    /recast "Mediate"
    /recast "Sekkanoki"
    /recast "Sengikori"
    /recast "Konzen-Ittai"


    etc etc. It's a good idea to have a different one for different subjobs too, like for /DNC I would have included /recast "Curing Waltz III" or Bergressor for /WAR.


    The only things I hate are that you can't force one macro to directly trigger another, and that regardless of what you name your Macro Books, you can never use /macro book command and input the name of the book - it always must be the corresponding number.

    For that reason, I have them labelled 01WAR 02MNK 03WHM and so on, going on the order they appear (from left to right, top to bottom) in the Jobs menu.
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    Please don't get this thread locked over your illusion that everyone is attacking you.

    And how can't you click the spoilers tabs?

    Melee1
    /equip head "Charis Tiara +2"
    /equip neck "Charis Necklace"
    /equip body "Charis Carasque +2"
    /equip hands "Dusk Gloves +1"
    /equip legs "Charis Tights +2"
    /equip feet "Charis Toeshoes +2"

    Melee2
    /equip back "Atheling Mantle"
    /equip L.Ear "Brutal Earring"
    /equip R.Ear "Suppanomimi"
    /equip L.Ring "Rajas Ring"
    /equip R.Ring "Angel's Ring"
    /equip waist "Twilight Belt"

    That's the first 2 "spoilers" in my guide. Should be enough to get you started, if you choose to try it.

    Edit: By the way, my Angel's Ring is augmented with +5 accuracy and -2 enmity, which is why I use it in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatias View Post
    The "spoiler" button is to make the guide take up less space. If you want to see the macro, click the button >.> It's not hard. (Also goes with the theme of macro clicking ;P)

    I don't have the time to buy a capture card or record myself clicking buttons. This would also defeat the purpose of the guide, I am attempting to help people make their own basic macrosets to try themselves. In that sense, it would be your action speaking louder than what I've written here.
    i mean record the game stuff. Like using fraps or stuff. More or less to how dmg or heal increases between gear swaping and not gear swapping. You guys can ask what I mean if it isn't obviouse and if your on a ps3, you can't click those spoilers. This guide is for gear swaping using macros. What does that have to do with how the macro layout is or how you press buttons. That is why to me it is hard to read.
    so question for ya. Is this guide on gear swaping? or Macro placement/ use from a keyboard point of view?
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    you can "click" on the spoilers just like any other hyperlink--I just opened them by using only the keyboard and not my pointer by just tabbing until my focus was on the spoiler link, and hit enter or spacebar. Never browsed on a console, but I would expect it would follow similar mechanics--if you can click a link to a website, you should be able to click the spoiler tabs.
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